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2017 Championships => General Championships Discussion => Topic started by: papillonlover123 on February 08, 2017, 07:36:34 AM

Title: Premium
Post by: papillonlover123 on February 08, 2017, 07:36:34 AM
Does anyone know when the premium is going to be released?
Thanks!
Title: Re: Premium
Post by: Chris Nelson on February 08, 2017, 09:34:37 AM
Very soon!  Had some delays the past week.

Premium should be up soon.

Keep in mind tue actual entry form will not be released until May.

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Title: Re: Premium
Post by: danforth on February 08, 2017, 10:53:06 AM
Will that be on NADAC web site, or the Forum?

Isabel

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Title: Re: Premium
Post by: Chris Nelson on February 08, 2017, 04:28:30 PM
Website :)

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Title: Re: Premium
Post by: giddyup on February 11, 2017, 08:09:01 PM
just looked at the Champs premium
  1) I know the entry form won't be out until May, but can you tell us the cost of entry?
  2) Since there isn't a proficient or skilled category at champs (correct me if I am assuming that wrongly), my
      dog will turn 7 in May of this year.  I jump him in proficient so I can jump him at 16.  Am I reading the
      premium correctly that I won't have the choice to jump him at 16" at Champs?
Thanks!
Jill
Title: Re: Premium
Post by: Chris Nelson on February 11, 2017, 10:34:19 PM
just looked at the Champs premium
  1) I know the entry form won't be out until May, but can you tell us the cost of entry?
  2) Since there isn't a proficient or skilled category at champs (correct me if I am assuming that wrongly), my
      dog will turn 7 in May of this year.  I jump him in proficient so I can jump him at 16.  Am I reading the
      premium correctly that I won't have the choice to jump him at 16" at Champs?
Thanks!
Jill
1) most likely it will be in the $275-300 range.

2) you are reading it correctly.   You may have to jump lower, but you'll still end up getting placed with dogs at a similar shoulder height.

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Title: Re: Premium
Post by: giddyup on February 12, 2017, 06:30:29 AM
Thanks!

Jill
Title: Re: Premium
Post by: papillonlover123 on February 12, 2017, 04:43:55 PM
Is there a discounted price for junior handlers like at other trials? If so what's is the price?
Title: Re: Premium
Post by: Chris Nelson on February 12, 2017, 05:55:18 PM
Is there a discounted price for junior handlers like at other trials? If so what's is the price?

There will be a discount, it won't be huge, but it will be there :)

I would estimate it to be around $200 for a junior handler.
Title: Re: Premium
Post by: giddyup on February 13, 2017, 03:51:20 PM
For my "double digit" dog that measures into the 20" standard jump height - what are my jump height choices for Champs?  Can I jump her at 16"?
Jill
Title: Re: Premium
Post by: giddyup on February 13, 2017, 04:30:56 PM
just looked at the Champs premium
  1) I know the entry form won't be out until May, but can you tell us the cost of entry?
  2) Since there isn't a proficient or skilled category at champs (correct me if I am assuming that wrongly), my
      dog will turn 7 in May of this year.  I jump him in proficient so I can jump him at 16.  Am I reading the
      premium correctly that I won't have the choice to jump him at 16" at Champs?
Thanks!
Jill
1) most likely it will be in the $275-300 range.

2) you are reading it correctly.   You may have to jump lower, but you'll still end up getting placed with dogs at a similar shoulder height.

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So my dog (who will be a vet by Champs) who measures into 16" as his standard height must jump 12?  (I'm just asking again because I just noticed your reply said "You MAY have to jump lower ". Just trying to clarify. Thanks again
Jill
Title: Re: Premium
Post by: Chris Nelson on February 13, 2017, 08:37:52 PM
The best answer is that whatever height you jump at a regular trial you will be jumping at Championships.

Now the exception to that rule is for Veteran dogs, who must take their veteran exception and jump 4" lower than their standard proficient height. 

Title: Re: Premium
Post by: giddyup on February 13, 2017, 09:43:24 PM
Ok thanks for clarifying!!  Don't know if you saw my earlier question. What would my double digit dog jump at Champs?  She measures into the standard 20" height class
Thanks
Jill
Title: Re: Premium
Post by: Chris Nelson on February 14, 2017, 08:51:50 AM
Ok thanks for clarifying!!  Don't know if you saw my earlier question. What would my double digit dog jump at Champs?  She measures into the standard 20" height class
Thanks
Jill

If she is 7 by August 1st then she will have to be entered as a veteran and would jump 16
Title: Re: Premium-yet another question/clarification
Post by: Linda W. Anderson on February 14, 2017, 01:30:32 PM
Zia will be 11 at the end of July.  I hope to qualify for Stakes again this year but if we don't, will there be a Double Digit division?
Linda
Title: Re: Premium
Post by: MoabDiane on February 14, 2017, 01:31:18 PM
Maybe Chris missed this, but Jill asked about a double digit dog. I believe they must take two height reductions, so the dog would jump 12 inches.
Diane
Title: Re: Premium
Post by: giddyup on February 14, 2017, 01:55:46 PM
Thanks for that answer, Diane!  I guess I'll have to practice with my dogs at 12". I think they're going to look at me like " are you serious?!?"  😄
Title: Re: Premium
Post by: giddyup on February 14, 2017, 01:58:09 PM
Ok thanks for clarifying!!  Don't know if you saw my earlier question. What would my double digit dog jump at Champs?  She measures into the standard 20" height class
Thanks
Jill

If she is 7 by August 1st then she will have to be entered as a veteran and would jump 16


No. My double digit dog is 11. She measures into 20" standard. Trying to figure out if she is going to have to jump 12 or 16
Thanks
Jill
Title: Re: Premium
Post by: Chris Nelson on February 14, 2017, 07:38:10 PM
Zia will be 11 at the end of July.  I hope to qualify for Stakes again this year but if we don't, will there be a Double Digit division?
Linda

There will be :)
Title: Re: Premium
Post by: Marj Vincent on February 15, 2017, 12:54:31 PM
Last year, the groupings for placement/awards were different.  We were able to jump our dogs at the height we normally do at any weekend trial, but the dog is 'placed' (for ribbon and awards) with other dogs at your dog's Proficient jump height (based on your wither height)....regardless of what you actually jumped. This is so big dogs jumping 12"  are not competing with smaller dogs jumping 12.

So for example, my dog is 20" at withers, runs in skilled and I am VH.  So he jumped 12" but I was grouped for placements with all the other 20" dogs that are also vet/VH. This means I completed equally with dogs of the same size in my Vet division group.  There are no skilled or proficient separation, those categories are only used for determining your actual jump height.  The Std, Vet, VH, JH groupings pertain to Elite Champs dogs and the Pre-Elite Champs Dogs.  (Stakes dogs are not subject to the grouping parameters)

Title: Re: Premium
Post by: danforth on February 15, 2017, 01:56:24 PM
I find this discussion of heights and groups confusing.

Cocoa's standard jump height is 12 inches.   From the beginning I ran as VH, so he jumped 8 inches.   Last year I put him into skilled so he has been jumping 4 inches.  He will be 9 years old as of Champs so he is a Vet.    If there is no skilled, what jump height will he have to jump?

Thanks.

Isabel
Title: Re: Premium
Post by: Chris Nelson on February 15, 2017, 03:57:22 PM
I find this discussion of heights and groups confusing.

Cocoa's standard jump height is 12 inches.   From the beginning I ran as VH, so he jumped 8 inches.   Last year I put him into skilled so he has been jumping 4 inches.  He will be 9 years old as of Champs so he is a Vet.    If there is no skilled, what jump height will he have to jump?

Thanks.

Isabel

There is a skilled when it comes to your jump height, just not for placements.

So for instance we have a 20" Standard group, and a 20" Veteran group. 

Cocoa would be jumping the same as at a trial.  So 4 inches.
Title: Re: Premium
Post by: danforth on February 15, 2017, 05:10:43 PM
Thanks Chris.

Isabel and Cocoa