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General Discussion / Gamblers and SCT Updates
« Last post by Chris Nelson on May 02, 2021, 02:15:40 PM »
We've got some updates going into effect very soon that we wanted to let everyone know about.

To reiterate one thing so no one freaks out too much, what we call positive updates are NOT constrained to our rule of only being done in January and June.   A positive update is something that won't affect anyone negatively, and only adds something positive to the sport, so there is really no reason to delay them.

Gamblers Q Values:

Starting June 1st, there is going to be an update to the amount of points you can possibly earn in Gamblers.   What we've been seeing a lot of is that people are viewing gamblers more as a way to get Q's, and less of what it is meant to be, which is a challenge to see how many points you can get.

To give everyone a little more incentive to actually utilize the class and challenge themselves we are adding the ability to earn more than the standard 10 Q points per run.

For the Elite level you will earn 10 Q Points for a run between 50 and 64 points

For runs between 65-74 you will earn 15 Q points

and for runs above at or above 75 points you will earn a 20 Point Q.

This update will happen eventually in all the software that's available, but luckily this is something that we can handle here in the office as well.   So don't be upset if you get to a trial after June 1st and it doesn't reflect the correct number of points, when those results are sent to NADAC we will update them before they go into your records.

Standard Course Times

We have decided to update the way that Standard Course time (SCT) is calculated in order to make it a more equitable system across different jump heights, and to better reflect all dogs currently competing.

Currently the files that get sent to NADAC only contain the runs that were Q's.    This is what we have historically based SCT off of in the past.

Starting June 1st the software programs will be updated to send us ALL run info, including non qualifying runs.

We will then take this increased data set to be used in the future for calculating SCT for all classes.

The SCT going forward based off this new data will be a percentage based system.   For instance in Regular you might need to run in the top 50% in order to qualify.   That 50% number is completely fictional at the moment, as we need to see the data coming in first, and see how it aligns with our current times to decide on a number that is reasonable.    This will take some time, but we wanted to let everyone know about it now as it will be continually discussed over the next year.

Ideally the first SCT adjustment won't take place until June of 2022, in order to give us enough time to get enough data sent to us, as well as review it.

But, we are also aware that if we start receiving data and it appears that a certain jumping height is being severely disproportionate in regards to SCT in comparison to another height then we could make adjustments sooner.    For example if we get 4 months into this data gathering phase and find that only 20% of dogs at the 16 inch jump height are making time, while 70% of dogs at the 12 inch jump height are making time, that would be alarming and cause for a quicker update for those 16 inch jump heights.

Happy trialing!

General Discussion / Re: VT NATCH Ribbons
« Last post by Linda W. Anderson on April 26, 2021, 12:09:01 PM »
Giving thee ribbons out has been a very generous move on NADAC's part.  As the person who orders the ribbons for my club, I totally understand the cost issue.  Thank you for going above and beyond to make the pandemic a little easier to endure!!
General Discussion / VT NATCH Ribbons
« Last post by Chris Nelson on April 26, 2021, 10:56:26 AM »
Hey all,

So the day has come that we knew would eventually happen, which is a good thing!

Because of the amount of trials that are now happening successfully, this has decreased the number of VT submissions by a large amount.   

Because of this we need to scale back on the number of VT NATCH ribbons that we send out, as it is a pretty large expense. 

We still want to keep this program going as much as we can though, so instead of dropping it entirely, we are just going to scale it back to the following:

 1) VT NATCH Ribbons will only be sent out for the first occurrence.  So you will get a ribbon for your first NATCH, V-NATCH and AA-NATCH.

 2) You can receive a VT NATCH Ribbon if this is your dogs farewell run as well.   So if you're not attending a trial and finish off your dogs NATCH and they are being retired, we will gladly send one out.  You will need to email us for this though, as we have no way of knowing.

 3) Anyone who has ribbons pending from the past month will still be receiving them as we're honoring the past conditions for the program.  This only affects NATCH's earned from this point forward.

Posted here while it is still available

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General Discussion / Re: Dog Walks
« Last post by Rosemary on April 23, 2021, 07:28:14 AM »
I bought my dogwalk from Stone Mountain and could not be happier.  Yes. The shipping was pricey, but the product is worth every penny.  I am only 4'11" and have no trouble setting it up and taking it down all by myself.  It is as sturdy as you can hope for and the company is really great to work with.  I'm now saving up for a new a frame that I will most certainly purchase from Stone Mountain.
General Discussion / Re: Dog Walks
« Last post by MoabDiane on April 22, 2021, 04:26:11 PM »
I have a Clip and Go also. I never noticed the ringing sound and apparently my dogs didnít either or didnít care.  I *love* how easy it is to move by myself!

General Discussion / Re: Dog Walks
« Last post by ResQ_Dogs on April 22, 2021, 02:01:52 PM »
We have a Clip n Go dogwalk. Good quality, but we were also concerned with the ringing sound. I tried a sound-dampening coating, but it didn't help. We ended up stuffing large, thick pieces of craft foam into the channels under the dogwalk to fill up the space (thank you, Nick Sparks), and that noticeably muffles it. The foam has been in there for three years and I don't see dogs having an issue with the sound of the dogwalk. Most of them didn't seem bothered by it in the first place, but we didn't want to worry that occasional dog that would be sensitive to it.

Diane Driscoll
General Discussion / Re: Dog Walks
« Last post by ricbonner on April 22, 2021, 12:33:28 PM »
I just bought and received a Clip and Go DogWalk and A-Frame.  I was considering stone mountain.  Clip and Go was more expensive but offered free shipping.  For me, with shipping costs included, the price was a wash between StoneMountain and Clip and Go.

I am a little unhappy with the DogWalk, though.  It rings like a bell when the dogs run across.  C&G's response to my inquiry was a basic "yep, that's how it works".  So I am looking into some vibration dampening for the ramps to quiet this ringing.
General Discussion / Re: Announcers for 2021 Champs Finals
« Last post by Ed and Tres on April 21, 2021, 06:11:42 PM »
...This will be my first year running at NADAC champs and I assume it's done similarly with the handler written speaker notes read over the loudspeaker, correct?  I also agree with the other comments that having a sportscaster providing a play by play over the loudspeaker would be an unnecessary distraction but look forward to hearing everyone's speaker points!!

Jen, Sage and Jett

Yes NADAC championships is very similar there is a announcer questionnaire that you fill out and summit ahead of time and the announcers uses that when you run in the ring being announced. There are only 2 rings Elite and Pre-Elite so often it is the Elite ring being announced but the Pre-elites also get a run or two announced. Pre-elite can have less dogs so if that ring ends then the announcer switches over to the remaining dogs in Elite.

Have fun at your first Championships.
General Discussion / Re: Announcers for 2021 Champs Finals
« Last post by Jen Bailey on April 21, 2021, 03:59:44 PM »
At AKC Nationals each exhibitor submits a few talking points about them and their dog. When they run in Ring 1, the announcers read the speaking points over the loud speaker.  At some point over the weekend all teams run in ring one.  The last time I went there were 6 different rings but they made it work for each team to get a turn in Ring 1. For challengers and finals there is a separate set of people doing commentary for the live stream, 2 years ago it was Esteban and Sarah from Bad Dog Agility.  Not sure who did it this year but it's usually an agility handler with experience. This will be my first year running at NADAC champs and I assume it's done similarly with the handler written speaker notes read over the loudspeaker, correct?  I also agree with the other comments that having a sportscaster providing a play by play over the loudspeaker would be an unnecessary distraction but look forward to hearing everyone's speaker points!!

Jen, Sage and Jett
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