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General Discussion / Re: Double run thought?
« Last post by Lorrie Stelz on November 27, 2019, 04:54:56 PM »
Yes, I love double run format, and I think most of us do here in the central plains.  I never hear people complain about them and I do think it helps the day go by faster, especially when we only have a one ring trial. As was mentioned, each dog we run has different strengths or challenges, so I am not bored running 2 dogs 4x on the same course.  And, as someone mentioned, change it up, do something different, do more distance work, etc. to provide yourself new fun/challenges.
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General Discussion / Re: Double run thought?
« Last post by Audri, Cee Cee, Lily, Toto, and Calypso on November 25, 2019, 08:59:45 AM »
I have a set amount of money that I spend at a trial so 7 or 8 runs wouldn't matter to me at all.  This weekend I am running 4 dogs in both TNG and tunnelers.   I guess because all of my dogs run differently, it doesn't get boring because I have to figure a way to run all 4 of them.  What IS tough is ONE walk through for all 4 dogs because I DO have to figure out what I am doing with each of them in the limited amount of time.  And then switching my mindset between dogs and remembering which dog I am running....

Time is also a big, big, factor in why I don't like running all 3 dogs in one double format class - at least anywhere there aren't separate walk through.

Part of it is having time to come up with appropriate strategy, but some of it's also just plain' fair to do the dog' issues.  I tried all 3 of mine in T'n'G.   EVEN WITH them in different height classes,  and levels, being that it was a small trial and there was a single walk through, so they got pulled,  had time to pee (barely) and then hit the course.

Some dogs do fine with that.

Mine need a little more to figure out where they are, what we're doing and to connect with me.

That one isn't a double run format issue though, except in as much as this entire too hurried process would then be repeated.

Which would jack them up higher.

Not an issue later in the day, but first one? Yeahno. Not for me and mine.

I totally get that.  This weekend, I ended up running 2 dogs in the elite level first.  There was enough time between them so that was fine and the one that needs the most time to warmup was one of those.  Then I ran one in the open level because she is able to go a bit more back to back without the rest.  The final dog, I ran in the novice level where there were a few more dogs to be able to give him a breather.  They just had to wait to score the elite until I was done.  I also had someone holding the first 2 dogs so I could switch them out, then she also went and grabbed the next dog that I needed.  That was EXTREMELY helpful!   In other shows, where they don't separate the levels, we just make sure everyone gets enough time.  People understand when you run multiple dogs that you need a bit of times to get the dogs ready. 
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General Discussion / Re: Live chat postponed
« Last post by Tammy Lenski on November 24, 2019, 06:43:31 AM »
Thanks for trying to provide the video link. Unfortunately, when I tried to view it, I received a "Video Unavailable" error message. If anyone from NADAC admin could help the rest of us not on Facebook get access to the video, I'd really appreciate it.
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2019 Champs General Discussion / Champs Apparel
« Last post by Lynn Broderick on November 22, 2019, 04:42:34 PM »
I've been meaning to post this for awhile now-

Thanks so much for the great shirts from the 2019 Champs- I really like the design (wasn't a fan of the last few), but what I really loved was the weight and quality of the shirts- they are really comfy! I will be wearing it often... along with the equally comfortable Finals shirt that I am very fond of!

Looking forward to 2021-
Lynn
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General Discussion / Re: Double run thought?
« Last post by BeckyAH on November 22, 2019, 01:21:31 PM »
But also my fun factor/value matters, and there really is a limit to how many times I can see that same course and care to run it. And it's fewer than 6.   Bored probably isn't the right word, but even with variation in dogs it just becomes 'done'. Either I'm getting it, and cool, don't need to repeatedly do it - or I'm not and I REALLY need to train it, rather than stress my dogs out more.

I *don't* dislike double runs, and use them quite a bit (especially in chances) and support my clubs doing what works for them.

But I'm likely to spend less/run less on a double run trial than not, because of how I select my entries.
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General Discussion / Re: Double run thought?
« Last post by BeckyAH on November 22, 2019, 01:18:01 PM »
I have a set amount of money that I spend at a trial so 7 or 8 runs wouldn't matter to me at all.  This weekend I am running 4 dogs in both TNG and tunnelers.   I guess because all of my dogs run differently, it doesn't get boring because I have to figure a way to run all 4 of them.  What IS tough is ONE walk through for all 4 dogs because I DO have to figure out what I am doing with each of them in the limited amount of time.  And then switching my mindset between dogs and remembering which dog I am running....

Time is also a big, big, factor in why I don't like running all 3 dogs in one double format class - at least anywhere there aren't separate walk through.

Part of it is having time to come up with appropriate strategy, but some of it's also just plain' fair to do the dog' issues.  I tried all 3 of mine in T'n'G.   EVEN WITH them in different height classes,  and levels, being that it was a small trial and there was a single walk through, so they got pulled,  had time to pee (barely) and then hit the course.

Some dogs do fine with that.

Mine need a little more to figure out where they are, what we're doing and to connect with me.

That one isn't a double run format issue though, except in as much as this entire too hurried process would then be repeated.

Which would jack them up higher.

Not an issue later in the day, but first one? Yeahno. Not for me and mine.

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General Discussion / Re: Double run thought?
« Last post by Amy McGovern on November 22, 2019, 11:48:32 AM »
The big deal is the extra time a getting people to work. I run 3 dogs on the same course, and often a 4th never gets boring because i am staying in the moment with the dog, and each dogs handles differently.

Try running them differently each time, add more distance, run silently there lots of ways to keep the mind active and engaged.

I am NEVER bored with agility (okay maybe here and there - but it's rare)

Agreed!  I used to run 3, currently have 1-2 (depending on if my son is at the show too) and they are all different.  I don't get bored!  In fact, I find myself more annoyed at myself sometimes for running the course with dog 1 the way that I need to run it for dog 2 (they are very different!).  So I work to challenge myself for both of them!  And now with a puppy coming, we get challenges in a whole new way again!
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General Discussion / Re: Double run thought?
« Last post by Anne Etherton on November 22, 2019, 11:08:34 AM »
I really appreciate double run format in chances.  I can figure out how to make it work the second time frequently.  I run two dogs who are in different levels and are just different.  I can't remember being bored ever.

Anne
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General Discussion / Re: Double run thought?
« Last post by Audri, Cee Cee, Lily, Toto, and Calypso on November 22, 2019, 09:00:21 AM »
I have a set amount of money that I spend at a trial so 7 or 8 runs wouldn't matter to me at all.  This weekend I am running 4 dogs in both TNG and tunnelers.   I guess because all of my dogs run differently, it doesn't get boring because I have to figure a way to run all 4 of them.  What IS tough is ONE walk through for all 4 dogs because I DO have to figure out what I am doing with each of them in the limited amount of time.  And then switching my mindset between dogs and remembering which dog I am running.... 
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General Discussion / Re: Double run thought?
« Last post by RobertStewart on November 22, 2019, 07:18:53 AM »
What's the big deal about extra walk throughs? Our trials are so small that we all get done by 4pm in standard format with extra builds and walk throughs. I don't understand why everyone wants to rush to be done - in the old days trials wouldn't end till 8pm sometimes and that was with 4 events a day. 

regarding - angles - yes I understand that - that is why I said tweaking - courses can be tweaked very quickly and many courses lend themselves to a nice reversal - and if judges are designing their own courses why can't they design something that can be reversed ?

I personally am very bored running the same course 4x (2dogs)

The big deal is the extra time a getting people to work. I run 3 dogs on the same course, and often a 4th never gets boring because i am staying in the moment with the dog, and each dogs handles differently.

Try running them differently each time, add more distance, run silently there lots of ways to keep the mind active and engaged.

I am NEVER bored with agility (okay maybe here and there - but it's rare)


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