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X-Hoopers as part of NATCH
« on: August 13, 2016, 10:37:58 AM »
This was posted in the Championships Courses thread:

"X-Hoopers will be a part of a NATCH at some point in the future.  Maybe it should be sooner than later!  It is a great class that combines an awesome test of directional skills.  One of the best classes we have and should be an integral part of the NATCH program.

Sharon"

Can you please expand on this? What is the expected timeline of this change? Will there be any other additions or changes to the NATCH/V-NATCH program?
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Re: X-Hoopers as part of NATCH
« Reply #1 on: August 13, 2016, 11:11:50 AM »
This was posted in the Championships Courses thread:

"X-Hoopers will be a part of a NATCH at some point in the future.  Maybe it should be sooner than later!  It is a great class that combines an awesome test of directional skills.  One of the best classes we have and should be an integral part of the NATCH program.

Sharon"

Can you please expand on this? What is the expected timeline of this change? Will there be any other additions or changes to the NATCH/V-NATCH program?

It will start with clubs being required to offer X-Hoopers in some of their trials.  I am sure that most of the current NATCH dogs will be long retired before any of them have to learn a hoop circle.  Maybe I will be retired also and it will never happen!

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Re: X-Hoopers as part of NATCH
« Reply #2 on: August 13, 2016, 12:25:52 PM »
Whether or not X-Hoopers ever becomes part of a NATCH, I sure hope clubs will offer it.  I love the class and firmly believe that it is one of the best training tools you can have for an agility dog.
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Re: X-Hoopers as part of NATCH
« Reply #3 on: August 13, 2016, 12:51:41 PM »
Would 10 qualifying runs be required?

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Re: X-Hoopers as part of NATCH
« Reply #4 on: August 13, 2016, 01:22:31 PM »
Would 10 qualifying runs be required?

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Once the basic title is earned, yes.

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Re: X-Hoopers as part of NATCH
« Reply #5 on: August 13, 2016, 08:26:01 PM »
I agree with Leeann. Really enjoy extreme hoopers. Have generally more success with extreme Hooper's over regular hoopers.  :D
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Re: X-Hoopers as part of NATCH
« Reply #6 on: August 13, 2016, 09:11:03 PM »

It will start with clubs being required to offer X-Hoopers in some of their trials.  I am sure that most of the current NATCH dogs will be long retired before any of them have to learn a hoop circle.  Maybe I will be retired also and it will never happen!

Sharon

Sharon? RETIRED?? Oh yeah, like THAT'S gonna happen...  ;D

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Re: X-Hoopers as part of NATCH
« Reply #7 on: August 13, 2016, 09:44:58 PM »

It will start with clubs being required to offer X-Hoopers in some of their trials.  I am sure that most of the current NATCH dogs will be long retired before any of them have to learn a hoop circle.  Maybe I will be retired also and it will never happen!

Sharon

Sharon? RETIRED?? Oh yeah, like THAT'S gonna happen...  ;D

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I am close........... Busi is only a few Q's away from her third Purple Achievement Cup and her 2nd Purple Versatility Achievement Cup............  Gia is only 3 Q's away from a Purple Achievement Cup......... and Able is half way to a MODSQUAD.... that would make for a great retirement party!

The negativity in this awesome sport is higher than ever............ and I just have a really hard time with negative people.  I have always lived by the "you are either part of the problem or part of the solution" and people have always supported that I work towards solutions with my training and my goals for NADAC.  But more people seem to act like I am the problem and not any part of a solution.  I love agility, the training for it, and NADAC, both where it has been and where it is going.  I love working with people and seeing their eyes light up when their dog "gets it"!  But I can do that without competing.

Chris and Amanda have really stepped it up and do a good percentage of the NADAC work.  If they can tackle NADAC with positive and eager attitudes, they can move NADAC into the next decade.  I will always be there for full support!

I won't retire from NADAC yet, but I might retire from running dogs.  I don't know if I will run at champs.  Pretty sure I won't run Busi with her increased loss of hearing.  A couple Purple Achievement Cups will be more than enough for her to accomplish!!  Gia is an on again, off again dog with her team skills and Able will return to Jean for her to finish those goals and they will be great together!

I have the best group of young dogs that anyone could ever have.  They are beyond amazing and they might be what forces me to get back in the ring in another year............ so you are probably right............. new dogs, new goals and I am a goal setter..... I just haven't set any new goals lately!!

I love the idea of a combo class using a hoop circle on a course....... but that goal with probably go by the wayside due to threats of people quitting NADAC because of a hoop circle and I don't need that for a business for my children!  So I can just do that at home and enjoy the thrill of it.  It is the most fun I have had in the sport for years!  But that is me, not the agility world...... not the "real" world, as I have been told.  I can live in my little world and totally love it!

Anyone that wants to join my little world is welcome to come by and visit me!!

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Re: X-Hoopers as part of NATCH
« Reply #8 on: August 13, 2016, 10:46:49 PM »
Sharon,

I *probably* should go private with this post but as my best friends know, I rarely miss an opportunity to give my opinion....in pretty straight language....just ask Amanda and Chris! hahaha!

First off, there has been nothing said, other than an off hand comment from you, in response to someone else, that maybe X-Hoopers should be part of a NATCH. People are over reacting and freaking out over an off hand comment. Everyone take a breath. Please.

Yes, I understand that those of us going to Championships have been "forewarned" - or *more correctly* been given a heads up - that a Hoop Circle will be included in *one* run. I am sad to hear of so many people who enter trials that are not given the opportunity to try an X-Hoopers class. Especially in an area where there may only be a couple of weekend trials in a year. That's just darn sad. But, in my humble opinion, you still have the opportunity to politely request the clubs offer this class. You're paying entry fees! Instead of just silently packing up your toys and staying home, have a nice conversation with the trial secretary and some club members as they are planning for their next trial. They might be delighted to try it out if some interest was shown! If the club has the hoops, get your fellow entrants to bring a few extra ex-pens and have some fun!

I am ticked off to hear that clubs that offer a few NADAC trials/year don't offer it at least once. Clubs should have figured out that Hoopers was here to stay (we were clearly told that!) and that the Hoop Circle was going to be *it*. Shame on you clubs! For trainers who say they teach their students to do well in NADAC, how how how could you omit a Hoop Circle? It is an awesome way to give students and their dogs a little distance and help in directionals in a very easy way! Shame shame shame....

Sharon, you are not the problem. Don't let anyone *ever* make you feel that way.

People are forgetting that the old Gamblers class and it's new "incarnation" as the Chances class is where AKC got its "Fast" class. People are doing that class in huge numbers. It takes distance and directionals to handle it and people who do AKC should all thank *you* for that. You are not "the problem", you are the innovator. Who also started the whole rubber matting and dumping those dang toe breakers on contacts? Could someone please remind me??? What organization keeps our old dogs running well into what would have been "retirement age"? NADAC. Lowered jump heights and ground classes (hoops!!) are keeping our dogs sound longer and us out there having fun with them longer. Innovative thinking again.

Yup, I get that you're being pounded on and it sucks. Big time.

Wise choice to send us that Combo course map. Those of us who have done X-Hoopers can let the others know that what would be asked *for the Hoop Circle* part would be typical for a Novice run. Certainly not Open or Elite!

The agility world needs you...they need you to continue doing research on what will keep our dogs healthier; keep on finding new and interesting games for us to play because the old ones do get boring for dogs *and* people; keep on showing us those amazing training skills you have so we can reach higher with our own. Please do not lose your enthusiasm for all of this because of just a few....there's many more of us who do appreciate you just like you are!

Sending hugs,
Kyle



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Re: X-Hoopers as part of NATCH
« Reply #9 on: August 13, 2016, 11:10:30 PM »
Kyle, thanks for the post!  I was at work all evening reading all of these posts and I was getting depressed over it.  What you said is all if not more of what I was thinking.  THANK YOU for the post.

I do not know if others have noticed this ot not, but there seems to be a lot more negativity on this list.  At this point I would say quite all off the negativity and the wining and go have fun with your dog, they are only with us for a short time.
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Re: X-Hoopers as part of NATCH
« Reply #10 on: August 13, 2016, 11:11:07 PM »
I would hug you if I could, Kyle!
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« Reply #11 on: August 13, 2016, 11:16:42 PM »
I agree with everything you said Kyle!!  There is so much I have to be thankful for in my life that is directly attributable to NADAC and Sharon.  I cannot imagine an agility world without her.

As for me and my dogs, we will happily visit Sharon's world every time we get a chance!!
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Re: X-Hoopers as part of NATCH
« Reply #12 on: August 14, 2016, 12:12:29 AM »
Well said Kyle  ....so very well said !

Sharon's forward thinking and passion has helped the sport evolve, other agility venues evolve and many handlers evolve. Not just in North America but here across the globe in Australia.

Thank you Sharon for being you and creating your world and sharing it with me.  Your world is to me the real world :)
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« Reply #13 on: August 14, 2016, 03:31:31 AM »
Well said Kyle , I hope more people read your post and support a true sport.

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« Reply #14 on: August 14, 2016, 03:32:47 AM »
Sharon your vision is such an inspiration to us all. Your ideas are amazing. Thank you