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Title: Points Uploaded-9-19-2012
Post by: Chris Nelson on September 19, 2012, 09:04:57 AM
As always be sure to let me know if something looks wonky :)
Title: Re: Points Uploaded-9-19-2012
Post by: TammiA on September 19, 2012, 10:29:42 AM
Thanks, Chris!  Does this include EGC points?
TammiArchbold
Title: Re: Points Uploaded-9-19-2012
Post by: Chris Nelson on September 19, 2012, 10:38:21 AM
Thanks, Chris!  Does this include EGC points?
TammiArchbold

Nope :(
Title: Re: Points Uploaded-9-19-2012
Post by: Jackie Brasen on September 19, 2012, 11:05:11 AM
the P# designation on the over 100 dri's don't seem to be listed on any of the new results....
Title: Re: Points Uploaded-9-19-2012
Post by: Chris Nelson on September 19, 2012, 01:04:07 PM
the P# designation on the over 100 dri's don't seem to be listed on any of the new results....

Couple of hours and it will :)

I always get the 'big' file uploaded so that everyone can get their points as soon as possible, then I go back through and designate the Platinum, Silver and Purple stuff afterwards
Title: Re: Points Uploaded-9-19-2012
Post by: Jean Sather (McCreight) on September 19, 2012, 01:22:38 PM
This is so awesome Chris and Sharon!!!   Three days after the trial and the points already include last weekend's runs and new titles earned!!!  ;D  Wow!!!!
Title: Re: Points Uploaded-9-19-2012
Post by: ljstringer on September 19, 2012, 01:45:51 PM
Hi Chris,
I just looked at the updated points, and my dog Sam (03-03378), got credit for Qs on 2 virtual runs in August, and I think I only submitted 1. Can you check on that please?
Thanks, Lynn Stringer
Title: Re: Points Uploaded-9-19-2012
Post by: Chris Nelson on September 19, 2012, 01:49:19 PM
Hi Chris,
I just looked at the updated points, and my dog Sam (03-03378), got credit for Qs on 2 virtual runs in August, and I think I only submitted 1. Can you check on that please?
Thanks, Lynn Stringer

All Fixed :)
Title: Re: Points Uploaded-9-19-2012
Post by: Linda W. Anderson on September 19, 2012, 05:56:08 PM
Thanks for the points update!  One more reason to love NADAC!
Linda
Title: Re: Points Uploaded-9-19-2012
Post by: Kelly Hall on September 20, 2012, 02:51:26 AM
We got our updates too, also including last weekends results. Great work. Good to check that my own book keeping is up to date too.

Thanks
Title: Re: Points Uploaded-9-19-2012
Post by: Sharon Nelson on September 20, 2012, 03:02:34 PM
Thanks, Chris!  Does this include EGC points?
TammiArchbold
The next upload will include EGC points in the dog's lifetime records.  The "DRI" column are the points awarded for the run and the "points" column will have a number that represents 10% of the DRI number.... and will be included in the dogs lifetime points.  We can't include the full number of points or their NADAC lifetime points will go wild with big numbers!!!  So their lifetime points will be 10% of their EGC points earned.  You will understand when they are uploaded!!

Sharon
Title: Re: Points Uploaded-9-19-2012
Post by: Cathie Cage on September 20, 2012, 03:59:33 PM
Sharon I thought EGC was a seperate entity, I don't think EGC points should be included in a dogs lifetime points. It should stay seperate, just like the champs EGC is seperate.

                                                                                               Cathie Cage
Title: Re: Points Uploaded-9-19-2012
Post by: Anne Etherton on September 20, 2012, 04:32:11 PM
What does the number mean that is right after the dog's name at the start of the points listing? (In Mimic's case it is 419).
Title: Re: Points Uploaded-9-19-2012
Post by: Sharon Nelson on September 20, 2012, 04:45:48 PM
What does the number mean that is right after the dog's name at the start of the points listing? (In Mimic's case it is 419).

It is how many records are in that dog's file.... another way of saying how many times the dog has qualified in their life.
419 is very impressive!!

Sharon
Title: Points Uploaded-9-19-2012
Post by: Wild Terriers on September 20, 2012, 07:04:26 PM
But EGC is not separate at Champs this year - there is an All Around award which encompasses EGC runs, TNG, TUN, WV and the 1st 6 runs of Regular. . . . . .

Karen and the Wild Terriers
Title: Re: Points Uploaded-9-19-2012
Post by: aprweber on September 20, 2012, 08:46:01 PM
I don't see any points in my records from the Four Paws Rule trial in Otis Orchards, WA August 18th and 19th.  Were they part of this upload?

April Weber
Title: Re: Points Uploaded-9-19-2012
Post by: Sharon Nelson on September 20, 2012, 08:52:41 PM
I don't see any points in my records from the Four Paws Rule trial in Otis Orchards, WA August 18th and 19th.  Were they part of this upload?

April Weber

Somehow Four Paws Rule didn't get uploaded on this batch.  I have them in the current batch which I will have done this weekend.

Sharon
Title: Re: Points Uploaded-9-19-2012
Post by: Sharon Nelson on September 20, 2012, 09:13:16 PM
Sharon I thought EGC was a seperate entity, I don't think EGC points should be included in a dogs lifetime points. It should stay seperate, just like the champs EGC is seperate.

                                                                                               Cathie Cage
As we stated, during the "testing" phase of EGC, it would be kept separate.  But it certainly appears that EGC is here to stay and although the trials are separate, the exhibitors are certainly the same people and NADAC competitors should be able to see all of their earned points together.

Sharon
Title: Re: Points Uploaded-9-19-2012
Post by: aussiepups on September 20, 2012, 09:47:41 PM
Hi Chris,

Have the results from Four Paws Rule August 2012 trial in Otis Orchards been posted?  Am I looking in the correct place...under points/point history for a dog where I plug in the registration number, or is there an excel file I can view like on the yahoogroups site?

Thanks,
Dorothy
Title: Re: Points Uploaded-9-19-2012
Post by: aussiepups on September 20, 2012, 09:52:13 PM
Oh duhhh, guess I should have read April's post first....  Please disregard my previous post!

Dorothy
Title: Re: Points Uploaded-9-19-2012
Post by: Cathie Cage on September 21, 2012, 04:19:35 AM
On Sunday, an Overall Agility Challenge Cup winner will be named to the highest scoring dog/handler in each
 standard division height.  Points for this class will have been accumulated from points earned in each round of the Regular Agility classes. Veterans and Jr. Handlers may jump at a lower height, but they will be scored with their Standard division jump height group.  The same handler must handle the dog in all rounds in order to be eligible for Overall cumulative awards.  Proficient and Skilled categories will be combined, unless there are more than 12 entries per category.  If entries allow, then extra splits will be given for Veterans and Jr, Handlers.  Double Digit Veterans will be placed separately.



According to the premium for champs I don't see where EGC is combined for the all around Karen.
Title: Re: Points Uploaded-9-19-2012
Post by: Cathie Cage on September 21, 2012, 09:34:46 AM
ok then if EGC is here to stay and it's not seperate, then why should you be able to get more points in EGC then any other class? Take for example you score 140 in XHP that means you would basically get a 14pt Q. So then why can't the scoring in EGC be the same for lifetime points, if you qualify it's 10 % of the score but can't exceed 10 points, that seems like the fair way to go. Or just give a flat 10 pt if you qualify in EGC for lifetime purposes.
Title: Re: Points Uploaded-9-19-2012
Post by: Sharon Nelson on September 21, 2012, 10:13:06 AM
ok then if EGC is here to stay and it's not seperate, then why should you be able to get more points in EGC then any other class? Take for example you score 140 in XHP that means you would basically get a 14pt Q. So then why can't the scoring in EGC be the same for lifetime points, if you qualify it's 10 % of the score but can't exceed 10 points, that seems like the fair way to go. Or just give a flat 10 pt if you qualify in EGC for lifetime purposes.

We did cap EGC at 125 points several months ago.... and you can get a 20 point bonus in all other classes so how is a 12.5 EGC run unfair or even a 14 point EGC run??  Many handlers earn 15 point bonuses and 20 point bonuses and you yourself have earned many!!  I don't see any element of "unfair" here.... a great run is a great run!!

Sharon
Title: Re: Points Uploaded-9-19-2012
Post by: Sharon Nelson on September 21, 2012, 10:17:53 AM
On Sunday, an Overall Agility Challenge Cup winner will be named to the highest scoring dog/handler in each
 standard division height.  Points for this class will have been accumulated from points earned in each round of the Regular Agility classes. Veterans and Jr. Handlers may jump at a lower height, but they will be scored with their Standard division jump height group.  The same handler must handle the dog in all rounds in order to be eligible for Overall cumulative awards.  Proficient and Skilled categories will be combined, unless there are more than 12 entries per category.  If entries allow, then extra splits will be given for Veterans and Jr, Handlers.  Double Digit Veterans will be placed separately.



According to the premium for champs I don't see where EGC is combined for the all around Karen.

Hi, Cathie.
    You are quoting the criteria for the "overall agility champions" at the NADAC Championships... and Karen is discussing the ALL AROUND at the Championships... those are very different topics..... both of you are correct for the particular criteria for the Championship you are discussing, but very different Championships!!

    The criteria is different for each... both of you are correct for the topic you are discussing!!

Sharon
Title: Re: Points Uploaded-9-19-2012
Post by: Sharon Nelson on September 21, 2012, 10:24:20 AM
Sharon I thought EGC was a seperate entity, I don't think EGC points should be included in a dogs lifetime points. It should stay seperate, just like the champs EGC is seperate.

                                                                                               Cathie Cage
As we stated, during the "testing" phase of EGC, it would be kept separate.  But it certainly appears that EGC is here to stay and although the trials are separate, the exhibitors are certainly the same people and NADAC competitors should be able to see all of their earned points together.

Sharon

Cathie is not on the Championships list, where we have discussed the exciting addition of the ALL AROUND Championships this year!!  Those who are eligible will also be running for the ALL AROUND which includes the TTW, EGC and first six rounds of the Championships to be crowned the NADAC ALL AROUND CHAMPION!!!!

This year we will be having three Championships during the first week of October!  The World Games Chamionships combine all EGC runs on Monday-Wednesday.  The NADAC Championships will be the combined scores from all Regular runs Thursday to Sunday.  The All Around Championships will combine the TTW, EGC and the first six rounds of the NADAC Championships from Monday-Saturday!  People are very excited for this opportunity and are gearing up for the most exciting NADAC Championships ever!!

Good luck to everyone and we are very close now!!

Sharon
Title: Re: Points Uploaded-9-19-2012
Post by: Wild Terriers on September 21, 2012, 11:24:01 AM
I think it is awesome and yes, there has been  ALOT of excitement on the Champs List/Forum about the All Around Awards this year - I think it's amazing that NADAC continues to offer so many options to teams.  And, based on the two seminars I've attended on the West Coast this year, and the number of teams that will be eligible for the All Around this year at Champs, there are a lot of people excited.

Karen and the wild Terriers
Title: Re: Points Uploaded-9-19-2012
Post by: Linda on September 21, 2012, 04:34:25 PM
Hello,

I just checked Pony's results, #08-05052, from the Four Seasons trial the last weekend of August. He earned 6 Qs - 2 Reg, 2 Chances, 1 Hoopers and 1 Jumpers, but it is showing double. It looks like he has 12 Qs rather than 6...which is interesting since he only ran in 9 classes.  :) Can someone take a look at this?

Thanks!!
Title: Re: Points Uploaded-9-19-2012
Post by: Sharon Nelson on September 21, 2012, 04:47:40 PM
Hello,

I just checked Pony's results, #08-05052, from the Four Seasons trial the last weekend of August. He earned 6 Qs - 2 Reg, 2 Chances, 1 Hoopers and 1 Jumpers, but it is showing double. It looks like he has 12 Qs rather than 6...which is interesting since he only ran in 9 classes.  :) Can someone take a look at this?

Thanks!!

BIG light bulb moment for me!!!  If the Four Seasons results are showing up twice and the Four Paws results aren't showing up at all.............. I almost guarantee that I, Sharon, made a big error and mixed the results up and processed Four Seasons twice and didn't do Four Paws at all, but marked them done when I did the second set of Four Seasons results!!!

I will get both fixed.... I will add in Four Paws and delete the second set of Four Seasons!!

Thanks!!  Finally made sense to me how I could leave one set completely out of the listing!!

Sharon
Title: Re: Points Uploaded-9-19-2012
Post by: Lisa Schmit In The Zone Agility on September 24, 2012, 06:30:54 PM
Or.....lets start scoring  "normal"  agility like EGC :)

 :) :) :) :) :)
Title: Re: Points Uploaded-9-19-2012
Post by: Sharon Nelson on September 24, 2012, 06:36:56 PM
Or.....lets start scoring  "normal"  agility like EGC :)

 :) :) :) :) :)

Lisa, that is called "stirring the pot"!!!!  Let's keep things calm until after the Champs at least!!!

Since the All Arounds at Champs are being scored using EGC rules for their Regular, Tg, Tn, and Wv runs as well as their EGC runs.... we will see how those two scores compare to each other!!!

And they get a jacket for being the "first" ones to take a shot at this exciting competition!!

Sharon
Title: Re: Points Uploaded-9-19-2012
Post by: Linda Hinsman on September 25, 2012, 01:33:10 PM
Hello,

I just checked Bess's Elite tunnelers points (07-05430) and P41 is listed twice for her.  Could someone please check that for me? 

Thanks so much!!

Linda Hinsman
Title: Re: Points Uploaded-9-19-2012
Post by: Chris Nelson on September 25, 2012, 01:53:12 PM
Hello,

I just checked Bess's Elite tunnelers points (07-05430) and P41 is listed twice for her.  Could someone please check that for me? 

Thanks so much!!

Linda Hinsman

Checked, fixed and done :)
Title: Re: Points Uploaded-9-19-2012
Post by: Linda Hinsman on September 25, 2012, 03:08:54 PM
Thanks Chris!!  You're awesome!!

Linda Hinsman
Title: Re: Points Uploaded-9-19-2012
Post by: Linda W. Anderson on September 25, 2012, 05:58:42 PM
Chris,  I was just checking Ezri's 4J083 points and it looks like she is missing a Tunnelers Q from the Toys for tots trial on 12/10/11.  Would you mind checking this?
Thanks,  Linda
Title: Re: Points Uploaded-9-19-2012
Post by: Chris Nelson on September 25, 2012, 07:04:40 PM
Chris,  I was just checking Ezri's 4J083 points and it looks like she is missing a Tunnelers Q from the Toys for tots trial on 12/10/11.  Would you mind checking this?
Thanks,  Linda

That's a little out of the range for being able to get things fixed.  But give Sharon a shout and see what she says.   She might have some better ideas than myself.
Title: Re: Points Uploaded-9-19-2012
Post by: Sharon Nelson on September 25, 2012, 07:24:45 PM
Chris,  I was just checking Ezri's 4J083 points and it looks like she is missing a Tunnelers Q from the Toys for tots trial on 12/10/11.  Would you mind checking this?
Thanks,  Linda

December of 2011 is out of our range of possibilities for corrections.

Sharon
Title: Re: Points Uploaded-9-19-2012
Post by: Karen Birdsong on September 26, 2012, 11:01:55 PM
When I click on the member section, then submit...a section appears that faintly says Dog and Handler Info..I can not click on that...How do I see my dog's total Q's?
Title: Re: Points Uploaded-9-19-2012
Post by: aussiepups on October 06, 2012, 03:10:45 PM
Did the Four Paws Rule, Aug-12 in Otis Orchards results ever get posted? 

Thanks,
Dorothy