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Title: Need weave pole recommendations
Post by: AndreaL on January 14, 2013, 01:08:12 PM
Hi,

I need to purchase some new weave poles ASAP, and would love to get some recommendations on vendors who sell NADAC-legal weaves that will hold up.  I bought my current sets from MAD Agility, and in less than a year one hinge has already broken and the rest are not far behind.  What are other clubs using?

Thanks,
Andrea
Title: Re: Need weave pole recommendations
Post by: Janice_Shavor on January 14, 2013, 02:24:30 PM
You probably need to supply an area of the country.  Here in North Alabama we have a local guy who does equipment.  He does weaves from steel and coats the top surface with LineX for traction and he does lighter weight aluminum and also coats it with LineX.  Last year I looked at my original weaves for training a new dog and discovered [gasp! horros!!] that they were 19" on center.  I do remember that in this area, you could still encounter 18" on center weaves but another venue generally had 20" on center weaves.  Now I'm looking for a metal recycler because I simply cannot bring myself to sell or give these to anyone.
Title: Re: Need weave pole recommendations
Post by: Pam Kaye on January 14, 2013, 02:39:02 PM
Andrea,

Where are you located?
Title: Re: Need weave pole recommendations
Post by: Jean Sather (McCreight) on January 14, 2013, 05:45:22 PM
  Last year I looked at my original weaves for training a new dog and discovered [gasp! horros!!] that they were 19" on center.  I do remember that in this area, you could still encounter 18" on center weaves but another venue generally had 20" on center weaves.  Now I'm looking for a metal recycler because I simply cannot bring myself to sell or give these to anyone.

Janice, find yourself a welder to respace your weave poles (if they are just for your own training purposes).  They may not look "pretty" but it is a lot cheaper than buying a whole new set of 24" poles (or whatever you need).
Title: Re: Need weave pole recommendations
Post by: AndreaL on January 15, 2013, 04:38:26 AM
Andrea,

Where are you located?

I'm in Blacksburg, VA. 
Title: Re: Need weave pole recommendations
Post by: Pam Kaye on January 15, 2013, 11:39:56 AM
What Jean said.  I've had a bunch of welding done by HS or VoTech welding classes at very good prices.
Title: Re: Need weave pole recommendations
Post by: Pam Kaye on January 15, 2013, 11:41:06 AM
Andrea,

I can only recommend west coast equipment builders - I bet someone from your area will chime in soon.
Title: Re: Need weave pole recommendations
Post by: LeeAnne McAdam on January 15, 2013, 02:54:35 PM
Andrea...I got mine at Way to Weave, www.waytoweave.com (http://www.waytoweave.com)  I love them, but they aren't cheap.  I probably wouldn't have been able to get them, but they had a great sale back around Thanksgiving.
Title: Re: Need weave pole recommendations
Post by: AndreaL on January 16, 2013, 08:50:27 AM
Hi Leanne,

Thanks so much for the recommendation.  Am I understanding the web page correctly that these come in 2-pole sections?  How well do the sections connect?  Can you give me an idea of how sturdy the connectors are and how difficult it is to assemble and disassemble them?

Thanks!
Andrea


Andrea...I got mine at Way to Weave, www.waytoweave.com (http://www.waytoweave.com)  I love them, but they aren't cheap.  I probably wouldn't have been able to get them, but they had a great sale back around Thanksgiving.
Title: Re: Need weave pole recommendations
Post by: Greg Brasen on January 16, 2013, 09:42:19 AM
Hi Andrea,
Our club also uses the way-to-weave poles.  You have a choice of 2 pole sections or 3 pole sections. Our club uses the 3 pole sections for our trials, while I have a 6 pole set made of the 2 pole sections (which are great if you want to teach weaves with the 2x2 method).

In either case the poles are attached by a plate underneath the weave poles and are screwed in from the top. The poles are easy to break apart (just need a allen wrench which is provided with the poles). We keep the loose screws and the allen wrenches in a plastic tub so we can find them when we need to put the poles back together.

As long as you tighten the screws down all the way the bases will stay in a straight line.

Greg Brasen
Title: Re: Need weave pole recommendations
Post by: LeeAnne McAdam on January 16, 2013, 01:59:25 PM
Yes, Andrea...what Greg said!  I got the two-pole sections just so I can haul them around in my car (doesn't everybody have weave poles in their car?) but I would go along with everything else Greg said.  At Sarah's trial they had some that connected that way and they seemed to get along fine.  They did say something in the instructions about how to move them..not lifting them too high...but I don't see that being a problem.  I love mine!
Title: Re: Need weave pole recommendations
Post by: AndreaL on January 16, 2013, 04:21:14 PM
Thanks for the info, LeeAnne and Greg!  One more question for you (and anyone else who might be using these weaves) - the website says each 12-pole set comes with 5 Connector/Weights, and they are recommending purchasing additional Connector/Weights for use in NADAC to increase the weight and stability.  Is this necessary?  If you have extra weights, how many extras are you using?
Title: Re: Need weave pole recommendations
Post by: LeeAnne McAdam on January 16, 2013, 08:00:26 PM
I don't have extra weights for mine, but I don't have dogs that hit the poles either.  I will say that the "feet" don't extend out as far as some of the sets I see at trials so I could see where it might be helpful to have the weights.  I would ask Sarah Fix or see if Greg responds back since they have trial experience.
Title: Re: Need weave pole recommendations
Post by: Greg Brasen on January 17, 2013, 04:58:02 PM
I'd say that it probably depends on what you are trialing on.  When we bought our personal set we chose to weight them because we knew that we would be using them primarily on an uneven matted surface, and we didn't want to have to mess around with possibly needing to tape the weaves in place.

Our club debated whether to get the weights or not. Now that I have seen them in action, I would recommend the weights if you are on a slick surface, or if you do multiple venues and you do not want to have different weave poles for each of them. With the weights they are heavy enough to not get pushed all over the place if dogs rub against the poles, but still free to move if a dog plows into a pole.  That being said, the design has a channeled track on the underside that grips dirt and grass, so even without the weights they are not likely to move much from normal weaving.

So get the weights if you:
1) Do multiple venues (so you don't have to stake them)
2) Are on slick surfaces

You can go without the weights if:
You are using them for NADAC trials only or personal use and you are not on a rubber matting floor (or other slick surfaces)

The club I am going to this weekend also has Way 2 Weave poles. I will try and take some pictures this weekend of the underside of the weaves, since his website doesn't show it well.

Hope that helps,
Greg Brasen
Title: Re: Need weave pole recommendations
Post by: AndreaL on January 18, 2013, 05:15:45 AM
Thanks, Greg - that's very helpful!  If you get a chance to take pics, that would be great!  Right now all our practices and trials are on grass, but I'm hoping to work out something for an indoor dirt arena in the future.

Andrea
Title: Re: Need weave pole recommendations
Post by: Greg Brasen on January 21, 2013, 06:19:53 PM
Here are some pictures of the weave poles. In the top view picture there are two models of the Way2Weave bases. The one on the left are the original design and are what I own. I imagine it is also what LeeAnne has as well. The base on the right is a the new redesigned base. The difference is the leg width and how the weights are attached (they are now screwed in rather than welded).

I forgot to take a picture of the plate to join sections. It is similar to the weights you see in this picture though.

Due to file size I will have to post these in separate posts.
Let me know if there is anything else you'd like to know about them.

Greg Brasen
Title: Re: Need weave pole recommendations
Post by: Greg Brasen on January 21, 2013, 06:21:11 PM
Here is the second picture showing the underside and weights
Title: Re: Need weave pole recommendations
Post by: Greg Brasen on January 21, 2013, 06:24:06 PM
This picture shows a close up of the grove/channel on the underside of the base. Just because this is shot at an odd angle, I wanted to clarify that I am holding the base upside down.

Greg Brasen
Title: Re: Need weave pole recommendations
Post by: AndreaL on January 22, 2013, 04:42:49 AM
Greg,

Thanks so much for taking the time to take pics and post them for me!  It's been very helpful - I appreciate it!