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Title: Intro to Agility
Post by: Sharon Nelson on March 09, 2014, 01:20:33 PM
Hi, group.
    We are proud to announce the addition of "Intro" as a level to the NADAC program!   "Intro" is a level for the classes, just like Novice, Open and Elite.  So now there are four levels to each class.... Intro, Novice, Open and Elite.

    The Intro level will be a shorter course than Novice.  The only Intro level class with weaves will be Intro Weavers and it will have one set of 6 poles.  No other classes will have weaves in them.  The Intro level will have no tunnel/contact discriminations.  The Intro level is a full titling level with the basic titles at 30 points, Outstanding Performance at 60 points and Superior Performance at 100 points for Chances, Jumpers, Tunnelers, Weavers, Hoopers, Touch N Go, Extreme Chances, Extreme Gaters, Extreme Barrelers, and Extreme Hoopers.  For Regular the basic title is at 30 points, Outstanding Performance is at 100 points and Superior Performance is at 200 points.

   BA is not required for entry into the Intro level of any class.

   Clubs can choose which classes they will accept Intro level entries into.  So not every trial will have Intro level in all classes.

   Only clubs with the software packages from Agility Unscrambled and FAST will be allowed to accept Intro level entries at this time.

   All upcoming NADAC funraisers will allow Intro level entries into every class.  Dogs must be 18 months old and all other NADAC rules apply to entries.

   Good luck!!

Sharon
Title: Re: Intro to Agility
Post by: DougRicks on March 09, 2014, 01:53:59 PM
Hi Sharon-
   Great idea, this is a nice way to ease those new people and dogs into competition while they are still mastering the weaves, the environment, and distractions of trialing in new places.
   A few questions came up that I am sure will be shared by others:

1. When can clubs start to offer this class?
2. Will there be skilled and proficient, vet handlers and vet dogs, and junior handlers?
3. Are the yards per second going to be lower than for novice courses?
4. There will obviously be qualifying scores, will there also be placements?
5. How long might a shorter course be?
6. All other rules apply, so are we correct in assuming that the dogs must be at the level of performing obstacles safely, working off leash, and that no treats or toys are allowed in the ring? And that the "one time per run" and handlers need to attempt the numbered course with maximum of standard course time etc. training in the ring rules still apply as in other levels?
7. Can a dog that has titled in novice/open/elite go back down into Intro level (thinking of semi-retired or restarting after time off)?
8. Since the course is different, there will be a separate walk thru?
9. It does not sound like this is involving EGC agility?

Looking forward to having another option for people and dogs to get started in agility with even greater chance of successes early on. We will definitely be looking at this for our upcoming trials.
Thanks
Doug Ricks
Extreme Agility Team
Seattle Agility Center
Title: Re: Intro to Agility
Post by: TheQuestKnight on March 09, 2014, 02:08:44 PM
Hi Sharon!!!!!!!!!!!

Absolutely, positively, TOTALLY AWESOME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  As it has been since you founded NADAC, NADAC once again is on the cutting edge of the sport!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

We're not sure if there will be "Intro" offerings near to us for us to take advantage of; but that doesn't matter!!!!!!!!!!!!!  The program is GREAT for NADAC................................and GREAT for agility!!!!!!!!!!!!!

THANKS and CONGRATULATIONS for "doing the right thing" once again!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

May the force of the purple tie-dye be with you!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Al & Barb Ceranko, Gael, Pellinore & Caitlin

Title: Re: Intro to Agility
Post by: Sharon Nelson on March 09, 2014, 02:11:03 PM
Hi Sharon-
   Great idea, this is a nice way to ease those new people and dogs into competition while they are still mastering the weaves, the environment, and distractions of trialing in new places.
   A few questions came up that I am sure will be shared by others:

1. When can clubs start to offer this class? It is ready in FAST now and I have beta tested it in AU and you could use the Beta version.

2. Will there be skilled and proficient, vet handlers and vet dogs, and junior handlers?  Yes, exactly the same as any Novice entry.

3. Are the yards per second going to be lower than for novice courses?  No, they are the same as Novice, just a shorter course.

4. There will obviously be qualifying scores, will there also be placements? That is up to each club.  For instance, NADAC funraiser do not have placements in any class, but do have qualifiers.

5. How long might a shorter course be?  For Regular and Jumpers, probably 8-10 obstacles, the other classes probably 5-8.  It will certainly depend upon the individual original course design.

6. All other rules apply, so are we correct in assuming that the dogs must be at the level of performing obstacles safely, working off leash, and that no treats or toys are allowed in the ring? And that the "one time per run" and handlers need to attempt the numbered course with maximum of standard course time etc. training in the ring rules still apply as in other levels?  Yes, you are correct in all of the above remarks!

7. Can a dog that has titled in novice/open/elite go back down into Intro level (thinking of semi-retired or restarting after time off)?  Yes, Intro is open to all dogs.  An Elite dog could enter Intro instead of Elite if wanted.

8. Since the course is different, there will be a separate walk thru?   Yes, the Intro people will walk their own course

9. It does not sound like this is involving EGC agility?  Yes, Intro includes EGC classes.



Looking forward to having another option for people and dogs to get started in agility with even greater chance of successes early on. We will definitely be looking at this for our upcoming trials.
Thanks
Doug Ricks
Extreme Agility Team
Seattle Agility Center
Title: Re: Intro to Agility
Post by: Lois Mierau on March 09, 2014, 02:31:43 PM
Sounds great Sharon!! If we already have trials approved can we apply to add this?

Thanks,
Lois Mierau
Sondog Agility
Saskatoon, Sk.
Canada
Title: Re: Intro to Agility
Post by: A Jussero on March 09, 2014, 03:00:32 PM
How does Intro count toward the number of runs at a trial--for instance if you offer 2 Reg, Chances, Jumpers, Tunnelers, Weavers, do you just offer 4 rather than 3 levels of each class.  In other words, it is not considered a 7th class in this case.
Title: Re: Intro to Agility
Post by: DebbieClark on March 09, 2014, 03:07:45 PM
Terrific news!!

Intro will be great for Roxie, my fearful girlie :)

Hopefully clubs in my area will offer it.
Title: Re: Intro to Agility
Post by: Mary Kapner on March 09, 2014, 04:47:25 PM
If a dog is entered in the regular trial, say 5 classes, can we enter the dog in an Intro class for the 6th?  I think that would be helpful for problem areas.
Title: Re: Intro to Agility
Post by: Sharon Nelson on March 09, 2014, 09:29:23 PM
How does Intro count toward the number of runs at a trial--for instance if you offer 2 Reg, Chances, Jumpers, Tunnelers, Weavers, do you just offer 4 rather than 3 levels of each class.  In other words, it is not considered a 7th class in this case.

Intro is not a "class", it is a level just like Novice, and Open and Elite.  NADAC is comprised of classes (like Jumpers, Regular, Chances, Weavers, etc) and levels (like Intro, Novice, Open and Elite) and categories (like Proficient and Skilled).

So every time a dog runs they are in a "level" and "category" of a "class".

Sharon

Sharon
Title: Re: Intro to Agility
Post by: Sharon Nelson on March 09, 2014, 09:34:30 PM
If a dog is entered in the regular trial, say 5 classes, can we enter the dog in an Intro class for the 6th?  I think that would be helpful for problem areas.

Intro is not a class, it is a "level" just like Novice, Open and Elite are levels of a class.

Sharon
Title: Re: Intro to Agility
Post by: knittingdog on March 10, 2014, 06:47:30 AM

What does this mean for the All Around awards?  Do the qualifications change or do we just need superior titles at the Novice, Open, and Elite levels?

Thanks!
Robin
Title: Re: Intro to Agility
Post by: Janice_Shavor on March 10, 2014, 08:05:19 AM
When will it be available in the VT courses?
Title: Re: Intro to Agility
Post by: Shirlene Clark on March 10, 2014, 03:08:03 PM
Am pleased to say that I have already added Intro to one of the trials I host in Australia for all classes in April.  I will most likely add it to all the trials I host as i think it is a terrific idea and fills the gap perfectly between Beginners Agility and Novice Level :)

Often agility enthusiasts get concerned about a couple of issues getting new people involved in the sport and keeping entry numbers healthy at trials.  This innovation addresses both of these issues nicely.

I think it is fantastic how NADAC evolves to continue to offer new challenges to experienced and highly skilled teams through thins like the bonus program and S&S trials but also addresses the other end of the scale and helping people and dogs  begin their agility journey with great support and thoughtful innovations to gently transition them into the sport and hopefully enable them to enjoy a lifelong passion.
Title: Re: Intro to Agility
Post by: Lisa Schmit In The Zone Agility on March 11, 2014, 04:07:49 AM
We can still offer FEO for the intro level as well correct?    So dogs over 18 months can enter intro level class and jump lower, but not receive a score.

Also, is it OK to copy your blurb about intro and post it/send it in emails?

I want to know what my exhibitors want :)

THANKS
Title: Re: Intro to Agility
Post by: Dan Roy on March 11, 2014, 05:00:15 AM
I like the idea of Intro. Did someone already ask this - Will Intro be a prerequisite before moving up to Novice? Thanks!

Dan
Title: Re: Intro to Agility
Post by: Linda Lessler on March 11, 2014, 10:37:58 AM
This is really a great addition, and awesome for "green dogs"!!!!  Thank you for adding this level -- really looking forward to it!

Linda Lessler
PA
Title: Re: Intro to Agility
Post by: Sharon Nelson on March 11, 2014, 02:20:45 PM
When will it be available in the VT courses?

Probably April 1st.

Sharon
Title: Re: Intro to Agility
Post by: Sharon Nelson on March 11, 2014, 02:21:25 PM
We can still offer FEO for the intro level as well correct?    So dogs over 18 months can enter intro level class and jump lower, but not receive a score.

Also, is it OK to copy your blurb about intro and post it/send it in emails?

I want to know what my exhibitors want :)

THANKS

Yes and yes!

Sharon
Title: Re: Intro to Agility
Post by: Sharon Nelson on March 11, 2014, 02:21:53 PM
Sounds great Sharon!! If we already have trials approved can we apply to add this?

Thanks,
Lois Mierau
Sondog Agility
Saskatoon, Sk.
Canada

Yes, you can.

Sharon
Title: Re: Intro to Agility
Post by: Sharon Nelson on March 11, 2014, 02:22:49 PM
I like the idea of Intro. Did someone already ask this - Will Intro be a prerequisite before moving up to Novice? Thanks!

Dan

No it is not a prerequisite for Novice.  Competitors can still start at Novice if desired.

Sharon
Title: Re: Intro to Agility
Post by: Lisa Schmit In The Zone Agility on March 11, 2014, 02:35:24 PM
How will chances change for intro?? Will it just be closer line???
Title: Re: Intro to Agility
Post by: Visionagility on March 11, 2014, 05:52:14 PM
Super excited about the Intro class I think it is going to be wonderful!

Thanks

Sunny Williams
Title: Re: Intro to Agility
Post by: Heidi Konesko on March 11, 2014, 06:46:55 PM
Great idea!  Especially the shorter courses.  I would do Intro weavers with Jack if its offered this spring. 
Heidi in NH
Title: Re: Intro to Agility
Post by: Sharon Nelson on March 11, 2014, 08:40:42 PM
How will chances change for intro?? Will it just be closer line???

Just like all of the classes, it will be a shorter course and for Chances it will be a closer line.

Sharon
Title: Re: Intro to Agility
Post by: Sheila & the Shelties on March 11, 2014, 08:57:48 PM
How will chances change for intro?? Will it just be closer line???

Just like all of the classes, it will be a shorter course and for Chances it will be a closer line.   

Sharon

Just a thought--I think that eliminating weaves and discriminations in intro chances is enough.  Perhaps add no  "switch-outs" at a distance and I think the chances line could remain the same and be easy enough.  We don't want to make it too easy.   ;D
Title: Re: Intro to Agility
Post by: Sheila & the Shelties on March 11, 2014, 09:08:36 PM
One question:  I heard from what is usually a reliable source that Intro will not have Qs.  I pointed out that Sharon said there would be titles and qualifiers, and placements would be up to the club.  The argument is that qualifiers are not Qs. Huh?

My understanding is it would be the same as any other level.  True?
Title: Re: Intro to Agility
Post by: Sharon Nelson on March 11, 2014, 11:29:31 PM
One question:  I heard from what is usually a reliable source that Intro will not have Qs.  I pointed out that Sharon said there would be titles and qualifiers, and placements would be up to the club.  The argument is that qualifiers are not Qs. Huh?

My understanding is it would be the same as any other level.  True?

Absolutely true!!  Q's are qualifiers and there are titles also!!

Sharon
Title: Re: Intro to Agility
Post by: Sharon Nelson on March 12, 2014, 10:04:41 AM
Sounds great Sharon!! If we already have trials approved can we apply to add this?

Thanks,
Lois Mierau
Sondog Agility
Saskatoon, Sk.
Canada

Yes, you can.

Sharon

If you use AgilityEvents and have already sent in your premium, then Jeff is not excited to change those premiums to add Intro.  It is a lot of work for him. 

If you haven't submitted your premium, then you are good!

Sharon
Title: Re: Intro to Agility
Post by: Lois Mierau on March 12, 2014, 10:18:38 AM
We us AU so I assume we are good to go! 

Thanks,
Lois
Title: Re: Intro to Agility
Post by: ljahans on March 12, 2014, 05:56:28 PM
Will the Bruceville, TX fundraiser offer the Intro class?

Thanks

LeeAnn
Title: Re: Intro to Agility
Post by: Becky Woodruff on March 12, 2014, 06:49:28 PM
Yes!
We've just revised the premium to reflect Intro.

Becky
Title: Re: Intro to Agility
Post by: James Bell on March 17, 2014, 07:50:36 AM
When will it be available in the VT courses?

Probably April 1st.

Sharon

Er, perhaps a different date than April Fools Day is in order? ;-)

James
Title: Re: Intro to Agility
Post by: Ed Scharringhausen on March 20, 2014, 06:49:58 PM
What is BA?
   "BA is not required for entry into the Intro level of any class."
Title: Re: Intro to Agility
Post by: Sharon Nelson on March 20, 2014, 07:32:18 PM
What is BA?
   "BA is not required for entry into the Intro level of any class."

BA is the NADAC acronym for the Beginners Agility program developed by NADAC.  It has level 1 ,2 and 3.

And many dogs with BA titles!

Sharon
Title: Re: Intro to Agility
Post by: Kelly Wise on March 22, 2014, 01:59:14 AM
Will the intro level make it's way into EGC? Just putting it out there.
Title: Re: Intro to Agility
Post by: Sharon Nelson on March 22, 2014, 07:32:18 AM
Will the intro level make it's way into EGC? Just putting it out there.

Yes, EGC is part of NADAC.  I did say that EGC, just like TTW would have Intro.  We can't offer it in only "some" classes, it will be offered in all classes.

Sharon
Title: Re: Intro to Agility
Post by: BetsieCorwin on March 23, 2014, 06:54:48 AM
What great idea.  When I first started trialing with Dazzle she had trouble keeping her brain intact for more than a few obstacles.  We sometimes ran only part of the novice course until she got more experience in the trial environment.  NADAC is always innovating.  Seems also perfect for some of our senior retired dogs who might like to still play the game and have fun on a shorter course that doesn't wear them out. 
Title: Re: Intro to Agility
Post by: Sharon Nelson on March 23, 2014, 05:09:24 PM
Will the intro level make it's way into EGC? Just putting it out there.

EGC classes are Extreme Chances, Extreme Gaters, Extreme Barrelers and Extreme Hoopers.  The very first post ever writing in this thread does list those classes!  So yes, EGC, as a part of NADAC is included.  All NADAC classes are included.

Sharon
Title: Re: Intro to Agility
Post by: Kelly Wise on March 24, 2014, 03:44:36 AM
That is fantastic Thank you
Title: Re: Intro to Agility
Post by: Lois Mierau on April 06, 2014, 09:35:31 PM
Just wondering what Hoopers will look like in the Intro level? I'm thinking three non-test hoops and one test?

Thanks,
Lois Mierau
Sondog Agility
Saskatoon, Sk.
Title: Re: Intro to Agility
Post by: Sharon Nelson on April 06, 2014, 10:14:34 PM
Just wondering what Hoopers will look like in the Intro level? I'm thinking three non-test hoops and one test?

Thanks,
Lois Mierau
Sondog Agility
Saskatoon, Sk.

I have not done any Strategic Hoopers Intro designs yet.  Several trials offering Hoopers, but they are all Numbered Hoopers.  We rarely see Strategic Hoopers.  It would just be one test, so it would actually be a "numbered hoopers" without the numbers as they have no choice on where to go in the pattern, so it is no longer "strategic" at the Intro level.

Sharon
Title: Re: Intro to Agility
Post by: Lois Mierau on April 07, 2014, 03:36:54 PM
We are offering strategic hoopers and have added Intro. If it just becomes numbered that means you are designating which test they have to do? I was guessing that they would do three non-test hoops and then one test of their choice.

Thanks,
Lois
Title: Re: Intro to Agility
Post by: Sharon Nelson on April 07, 2014, 04:16:41 PM
We are offering strategic hoopers and have added Intro. If it just becomes numbered that means you are designating which test they have to do? I was guessing that they would do three non-test hoops and then one test of their choice.

Thanks,
Lois

In Intro we remove all obstacles that are not to be taken.  That makes it easy for the Intro teams to not have to deal with complicating things.

Sharon
Title: Re: Intro to Agility
Post by: quamashbcs@yahoo.com on April 12, 2014, 08:43:54 AM
What will the course times be for Intro? Same yardage rate as Novice?
Title: Re: Intro to Agility
Post by: Sharon Nelson on April 12, 2014, 09:53:19 AM
What will the course times be for Intro? Same yardage rate as Novice?

Yes, same as Novice.

Sharon
Title: Re: Intro to Agility
Post by: Sharon Nelson on April 17, 2014, 09:51:31 AM
Thanks to all of the clubs that added Intro to their current trials!  We have never had so much positive feedback from competitors!  They really appreciate the opportunity to have a shortened course and still a tough qualifying program.  Intro is NOT a giveaway and the dog must be prepared to trial and do obstacles correctly.  But what a great way to start with a shorter course for those that want to reward those dogs with smiling and happy faces sooner!!

People are loving it!!

Thanks again!  Those clubs took the chance by stepping up first and we applaud your support of this new program.

Sharon
Title: Re: Intro to Agility
Post by: Merri on April 17, 2014, 11:05:21 AM
Totally Awesome that this will be part of he VT program!  Just what our special needs dog needs.

Also would be cool way for other dogs to get started in the Extreme Games.
Merri, Hildie and Katie
Title: Re: Intro to Agility
Post by: Sharon Nelson on April 17, 2014, 12:26:34 PM
Totally Awesome that this will be part of he VT program!  Just what our special needs dog needs.

Also would be cool way for other dogs to get started in the Extreme Games.
Merri, Hildie and Katie

So far the courses with Intro added to them are 80x120 and 100x100 ring sizes.  It will be a couple weeks before I get sets done for the smaller 80x100 ring sizes.  So for those with the standard 80x120 or 100x100, we can upload some of those now!

Sharon
Title: Re: Intro to Agility
Post by: Sharon Nelson on April 17, 2014, 12:27:46 PM
Lisa's trial last weekend had 52 Intro runs!!!  Wow!

Lots of new dogs and many older dogs enjoying the short but challenging courses!

Sharon
Title: Re: Intro to Agility
Post by: LeeAnne McAdam on April 17, 2014, 05:36:18 PM
That is awesome!  I hope more clubs will offer it.  Good job, Lisa!
Title: Re: Intro to Agility
Post by: Jeannie Biggers on April 17, 2014, 07:41:53 PM
We have 31 so far with some saying if their dogs handle it they will add more over the weekend!!!   ;D  Go Intro doggies!!!!
Title: Re: Intro to Agility
Post by: Jeanne Allen on April 17, 2014, 08:05:45 PM
I can not wait to try the new Intro Level!  Will get the chance this weekend!  Thanks Jeannie for adding it to the Got Dog? trial!!!!!

Now to only get my club to offer it in more classes than just Regular.
Title: Re: Intro to Agility
Post by: quamashbcs@yahoo.com on April 20, 2014, 03:21:52 PM
WE LOVE INTRO!!!

Thanks Sharon and also to trial secretaries for adding it. This is perfect for FitzRoy as we struggle with her hyperarousal issues. The short courses are just long enough to get around with her brain intact, and the challenges we saw today were very reasonable. We may stay in Intro forever ;>.
Title: Re: Intro to Agility
Post by: Jeannie Biggers on April 20, 2014, 05:26:27 PM
Intro is gaining speed here in Montana!!  This weekend at the GotDog? trial we had 64 Intro runs  ;D

This such an incredible addition to NADAC and agility trials. 
Title: Re: Intro to Agility
Post by: LeeAnne McAdam on April 20, 2014, 05:43:08 PM
Woo-hoo!!  That is awesome!
Title: Re: Intro to Agility
Post by: Lisa Schmit In The Zone Agility on April 20, 2014, 06:37:31 PM
Intro is awesome !!!!!
  What a great addition to the trial!!   This past weekend in NJ my intro numbers were lower......but I will keep offering it
Title: Re: Intro to Agility
Post by: Kelly Hall on April 20, 2014, 07:29:59 PM
We had Intro class for the first time in Australia in Ballarat on the weekend. It was absolutely fantastic. The young dogs who tried it grew so much in confidence with the shorter courses and less obstacles in the ring. It was a real winner here. Well done Sharon for thinking of it and Well Done. Shirlene for adding it for us Aussies.
Title: Re: Intro to Agility
Post by: quamashbcs@yahoo.com on April 20, 2014, 08:46:17 PM
It did not add too much to the trial day either. The courses were simple enough that some people didn't even bother to walk. The most time was wasted getting the first dog on the line ;>.
Title: Re: Intro to Agility
Post by: Sharon Nelson on April 20, 2014, 10:26:22 PM
A note about Intro.  Imagine you had been running trials with only Open and Elite levels.  Then we added Novice......... there would be a extra course builds and walk throughs and the courses don't "magically" change from Open to Novice without some effort by the course builders and the judge and the course crew.  It would be 1/3 more work than before!

With Intro, you are adding Intro to the current levels of Novice, Open and Elite.  That means extra walk throughs, course builds and time for the trial.  In most cases you add 1/4 more time to the trial.  You have added a fourth level to each class, and the added time for walk throughs and course builds.  The courses need to change, they are not a matter of just simply "skipping" a few obstacles and calling it Into.  The level gets the same amount of respect as any other level, which also means not having a field of equipment that isn't supposed to be taken by the Intro team.  The Intro teams get their own time at the trial with course builds and walk throughs.

That being said, Intro is a HUGE success!  Some clubs have found the course changes and extra walk throughs to be easy and a great addition and a real thrill to see the up and coming teams starting to get some ring time.  Other clubs have found the course changes to be too long and more work than expected originally.  All clubs ran the same courses.   It was hard on some and easy on others.

But even clubs or judges that felt it took a bit too much time still loved the addition of Intro and we will all work together to try to minimize any difficulties that arise.

I can put even more hours into course design with the sole concern to not cause any course changes for judges or clubs and maybe some clubs can try harder to realize that adding a whole new level is going to add course changes, walk throughs and time to a trial. 

Intro will also add more entries.

If one imagined hosting a trial without Novice.  The trial would be shorter, the courses would have less course builds and walk throughs and much less time involved.  The trial would also have that many less entries.

Intro has pluses and minuses.  I think that some clubs/judges thought that courses wouldn't change and the Intro teams would just run a few of the obstacles already on the course from a previous level.  But Intro is treated with the same respect as Novice, Open and Elite.  They have a course built for them just like the other three levels do.  The courses are challenging and fair for the Intro teams and they don't have to work around obstacles left in the ring that they are not supposed to be taking.

We got reviews from clubs that ran the same courses that all changes were simple and didn't take hardly any time and also that the course changes took too much time.

So the addition of Intro may or may not be a good addition to your trial!  The entries for Intro will continue to grow and grow and clubs will need to consider if those additional runs are worth the addition of added time and work needed to offer a 4th level for each class.

Right now clubs can pick and choose which classes they want to offer an Intro level.  As of January 1st, if Intro is offered then it must be offered in every class or none at all.  So this year is the time to decide on what is best and either build up the Intro "population" in your area or decide that it isn't the best fit for your area and club.

So there are positives and negatives to the addition of a fourth level to the classes.  A lot of fun and/or a lot of work!!

Sharon
Title: Re: Intro to Agility
Post by: Shirlene Clark on April 21, 2014, 01:48:48 AM
We ran intro in Australia this weekend.  A 2 day trial, double run format, 6 classes a day.  Intro was an absolute hit !  It was terrific to see teams who were struggling in Novice level enter Intro and suddenly there was happiness for handlers and dogs !  By the end of the second day the intro dogs were going from strength to strength.  I will continue to offer intro level here...it is a good thing for the sport.  Good on many levels both for the here and now and for the future of agility :)
Title: Re: Intro to Agility
Post by: Kamrin on April 21, 2014, 03:06:52 AM
We did intro at Lisa's ITZ trial this weekend.  I was very happy with the courses and the opportunity to reward my wild boy for working with me.  It was nice to not have to create my own "short course" out of the novice courses.  By the end of each day, my boy and I were working much better as a team.  After another couple trials, I'm hoping for more consistency in our teamwork.  But I see no rush to move up in levels... so please keep offering intro!

Love it!!
Title: Re: Intro to Agility
Post by: Sara Langston on April 21, 2014, 07:23:34 AM
Sharon,  Intro sounds like it could be a very good thing to offer and we might like to try it.  However, after this coming weekend, there are no NADAC trials in this area until September.  We will not have an opportunity to see if this new class will work for our trials.  Personally, my next trial, Laughing Dog Agility, is not until late October.  Then, we have one in January and March.  Therefore, I would ask that you not make Intro an "all or nothing" class as of January 1st.  Please give us another agility season to evaluate if this will work for our individual clubs.  The agility season in this area runs from September to May.  Also, I would ask that you keep it so a club can pick a few classes in which to offer Intro or they could offer it at all levels.  The clubs in this area are so small and the manpower in the clubs stretched so thin just to host a trial, the extra work might be accepted better if it involved only a couple of classes instead of all of them. 

I truly would like to offer Intro agility at my trials, but don't want to feel I must offer it for all six classes for all three days.  I would like to try it for a couple of classes and see how it works.  I am confident it will work and probably would be added to all classes, but would just like to try it first. 

We are working really hard to increase the presence of NADAC in the Southeast and feel Intro will be very helpful in this.  However, we do need to consider the extra work it puts on our volunteers and how it will affect the overall running of the trial.  Being able to get more entries is always a good thing. 

I am sure this was discussed somewhere in this thread, but can't seem to find it.  Does the trial software need to be updated to accommodate Intro??  If so, which software products currently have it???  I hate to have to buy and learn to use new software.  VBG

Bottom line, all I am saying is that I would like the opportunity to go to a trial that offers Intro to see how it works and to offer it in a limited basis at one of my trials before I have to offer it in all classes.  Therefore, I would hope you would give us a little more time before it has to be offered in all classes at a trial.  Thanks for everything you do to keep NADAC the BEST venue available.  Your hard work is appreciated. 

Sara Langston   
Title: Re: Intro to Agility
Post by: Jeannie Biggers on April 21, 2014, 07:57:47 AM
GotDog? offered in all classes this past weekend.  I got 64 runs that I would not have gotten otherwise PLUS some VERY happy dogs and handlers.  Yep it was a longer day and more work but it was SOOOO worth it to see all those smiles.

GotDog? will always offer Intro in ALL classes from here on out.

Thanks Sharon for helping us find a way to get people excited to come play this great sport AND be successful!
Title: Re: Intro to Agility
Post by: Sharon Nelson on April 21, 2014, 09:37:12 AM
We ran intro in Australia this weekend.  A 2 day trial, double run format, 6 classes a day.  Intro was an absolute hit !  It was terrific to see teams who were struggling in Novice level enter Intro and suddenly there was happiness for handlers and dogs !  By the end of the second day the intro dogs were going from strength to strength.  I will continue to offer intro level here...it is a good thing for the sport.  Good on many levels both for the here and now and for the future of agility :)

And you had many great reports on the success of the introduction of Intro!!!

Good job!

Sharon
Title: Re: Intro to Agility
Post by: Sharon Nelson on April 21, 2014, 09:39:06 AM
We did intro at Lisa's ITZ trial this weekend.  I was very happy with the courses and the opportunity to reward my wild boy for working with me.  It was nice to not have to create my own "short course" out of the novice courses.  By the end of each day, my boy and I were working much better as a team.  After another couple trials, I'm hoping for more consistency in our teamwork.  But I see no rush to move up in levels... so please keep offering intro!

Love it!!

Awesome!  Intro is a great step and the perfect match for those new teams.  To be able to run an Intro course and also have a possible Q linked to it really helps those teams get started and feel connected on a real course just for them!

Sharon
Title: Re: Intro to Agility
Post by: Sharon Nelson on April 21, 2014, 09:40:50 AM
GotDog? offered in all classes this past weekend.  I got 64 runs that I would not have gotten otherwise PLUS some VERY happy dogs and handlers.  Yep it was a longer day and more work but it was SOOOO worth it to see all those smiles.

GotDog? will always offer Intro in ALL classes from here on out.

Thanks Sharon for helping us find a way to get people excited to come play this great sport AND be successful!

There were many happy teams from GotDog in the Intro classes.  They had a great time and really appreciated that Intro was offered!

Sharon
Title: Re: Intro to Agility
Post by: Dwayne Bonker on April 21, 2014, 01:49:14 PM
I am sure this was discussed somewhere in this thread, but can't seem to find it.  Does the trial software need to be updated to accommodate Intro??  If so, which software products currently have it???  I hate to have to buy and learn to use new software.  VBG

Sara Langston

Sara

If I remember correctly, you use Agility Unscrambled or FAST don't you?

Both of these have been upgraded with the Intro Level and there is very little to no additional items you need to worry about when using them. The Intro Level entries and scoring is just like any other level (Novice, Open, or Elite) and it is very easy for one to do!

Dwayne Bonker
Title: Re: Intro to Agility
Post by: Jean Sather (McCreight) on April 22, 2014, 07:16:19 AM
I love Intro and I think it's a great addition to trials, both for "first time" and young dogs, and dogs which for any reason can have more fun on shorter, easier courses.

I do think exhibitors should be aware that it does require a bit more course-building, and moving of (sometimes heavy) equipment: contacts, tunnels and tunnel bags.  Course builders would REALLY appreciate help at these times especially.  Even if you can't help lift heavy equipment, you might be able to pick up numbers if needed, or move some hoops off a course.  If you are standing at the gate waiting to walk your course (any course!) and see just a few folks out there struggling to get equipment moved, any ways you can pitch in to help would be appreciated, and will help the trial day move along more quickly and smoothly!!
Title: Re: Intro to Agility
Post by: Sara Langston on April 22, 2014, 07:24:22 AM
Dwayne,  I use Trial Genie and I don't think it has been updated.  I will check with the software provider to be sure.  Thanks.

Sara Langston
Title: Re: Intro to Agility
Post by: Sharon Nelson on April 22, 2014, 10:03:00 AM
Dwayne,  I use Trial Genie and I don't think it has been updated.  I will check with the software provider to be sure.  Thanks.

Sara Langston

Trial Genie does not support EGC, BA or Intro.

At some point clubs will be required to use either FAST or AU.

Sharon
Title: Re: Intro to Agility
Post by: Sheila & the Shelties on April 22, 2014, 12:25:37 PM
Are there any course maps available on the Forum for any Intro classes?  Will Intro classes be added to the maps for the VT lineup?
Title: Re: Intro to Agility
Post by: Jeanne Allen on April 22, 2014, 02:09:17 PM
A note about Intro.  Imagine you had been running trials with only Open and Elite levels.  Then we added Novice......... there would be a extra course builds and walk throughs and the courses don't "magically" change from Open to Novice without some effort by the course builders and the judge and the course crew.  It would be 1/3 more work than before!

With Intro, you are adding Intro to the current levels of Novice, Open and Elite.  That means extra walk throughs, course builds and time for the trial.  In most cases you add 1/4 more time to the trial.  You have added a fourth level to each class, and the added time for walk throughs and course builds.  The courses need to change, they are not a matter of just simply "skipping" a few obstacles and calling it Into.  The level gets the same amount of respect as any other level, which also means not having a field of equipment that isn't supposed to be taken by the Intro team.  The Intro teams get their own time at the trial with course builds and walk throughs.

That being said, Intro is a HUGE success!  Some clubs have found the course changes and extra walk throughs to be easy and a great addition and a real thrill to see the up and coming teams starting to get some ring time.  Other clubs have found the course changes to be too long and more work than expected originally.  All clubs ran the same courses.   It was hard on some and easy on others.

But even clubs or judges that felt it took a bit too much time still loved the addition of Intro and we will all work together to try to minimize any difficulties that arise.

I can put even more hours into course design with the sole concern to not cause any course changes for judges or clubs and maybe some clubs can try harder to realize that adding a whole new level is going to add course changes, walk throughs and time to a trial. 

Intro will also add more entries.

If one imagined hosting a trial without Novice.  The trial would be shorter, the courses would have less course builds and walk throughs and much less time involved.  The trial would also have that many less entries.

Intro has pluses and minuses.  I think that some clubs/judges thought that courses wouldn't change and the Intro teams would just run a few of the obstacles already on the course from a previous level.  But Intro is treated with the same respect as Novice, Open and Elite.  They have a course built for them just like the other three levels do.  The courses are challenging and fair for the Intro teams and they don't have to work around obstacles left in the ring that they are not supposed to be taking.

We got reviews from clubs that ran the same courses that all changes were simple and didn't take hardly any time and also that the course changes took too much time.

So the addition of Intro may or may not be a good addition to your trial!  The entries for Intro will continue to grow and grow and clubs will need to consider if those additional runs are worth the addition of added time and work needed to offer a 4th level for each class.

Right now clubs can pick and choose which classes they want to offer an Intro level.  As of January 1st, if Intro is offered then it must be offered in every class or none at all.  So this year is the time to decide on what is best and either build up the Intro "population" in your area or decide that it isn't the best fit for your area and club.

So there are positives and negatives to the addition of a fourth level to the classes.  A lot of fun and/or a lot of work!!

Sharon

Sharon, can I send this to my clubs board?  I am getting some resistance on the Intro Level and this may help the board out (or not). 

On another note, I was one of the Intro Level dogs at the Got Dog? trial last weekend.  Even though Jester is in Novice in other classes, he still is not weaving yet and when I found out there are no weaves, I signed him up for Intro Regular.  His Q rate has not been that great, but he managed to get 3 Q's out of the 4 Regular runs and he also got the Got Dog? Trial Star for Intro!

Since I have been competing in agility for 11 years now, I will admit that on Sunday I did not walk the second round of Intro Regular.  OK, I did look at the reverse of Round 1 when I was walking Round 1.  So when I finished running Round 1, I just went right back to the in gate to run the second round.

I love the Intro Level and can not wait to run in it again!!!  Wait, that will be in 3 days!!! YAHOO!!!!!
Title: Re: Intro to Agility
Post by: dogrsqr on April 23, 2014, 01:17:06 PM
I may have missed this, but can we add intro to trials if the premium is already out?

Gina Pizzo
Title: Re: Intro to Agility
Post by: cheyaut on April 26, 2014, 12:19:15 AM
I'm excited, the two trials I'm doing in May have added intro :D I'm entering one of my dogs who is not a serious agility dog... he's too much of a clown who loves to play (and hates to weave), so intro is a good way for me to have some trial fun with him, with a chance of getting a Q on top of the fun we have together :) And in the other trial, I'm entering my young dog who can really use a shorter course with no weaves and discriminations at this point in her training. Without the intro, I wouldn't be running these two dogs this coming month, so I'm very happy about it! Thanks to Turns 'N' Wraps and Jumping Chollas for adding Intro! :D

Jessi
Title: Re: Intro to Agility
Post by: Maureen deHaan on April 28, 2014, 09:13:55 AM
I offered Intro at my trial (Play~Bow) this weekend - while the classes were small EVERYONE who ran in them loved it!

 I also have to say that one of my students who is a really nervous person about competing and whose dog can also be a little nervous / reactive brained - ran intro this weekend - I was so proud of them both - both members of the team stayed relatively calm and just flew through the course - big positive feedback for that handler!! :)  I have to also say that the handler has been working on "licking and blinking" with her dog at my urging - she would not release her dog from the start until her dog showed her a ready sign - and yes she was "E" for training once for it taking too long but she hung in there and her dog ran so nicely and therefore the handler relaxed too -- so happy for them!!!

So Intro is not only great for dogs - it is great for people too!

Title: Re: Intro to Agility
Post by: hppytail on April 30, 2014, 02:49:59 PM
Is their any place I could watch a run or see a course for Intro? I would like to set something up for my classes to show they can do it!!
Title: Re: Intro to Agility
Post by: Sharon Nelson on April 30, 2014, 02:58:21 PM
Is their any place I could watch a run or see a course for Intro? I would like to set something up for my classes to show they can do it!!

The last set of VT courses posted has VT included.

Sharon
Title: Re: Intro to Agility
Post by: Sheila & the Shelties on April 30, 2014, 08:06:03 PM
Thank you!!!!! 
Title: Re: Intro to Agility
Post by: hppytail on May 01, 2014, 12:28:10 AM
they are the Olive Oil ones and I couldn't find any intro courses. Is there somewhere else to look?  All it had was the usual courses?

Terry Besler
Title: Re: Intro to Agility
Post by: Lin Battaglia on May 01, 2014, 08:07:38 AM
Look at the "Dogs" VT courses. There are two Intro courses there. Correct "Olive Oil" has none.

LinB
Title: Re: Intro to Agility
Post by: Yvette Cook on May 05, 2014, 09:42:08 PM
At the Turns N Wraps trial this past weekend in Arizona, we offered Intro for all classes and it was a HIT by all that entered, including myself! There were new teams and some teams that have been in Novice and having difficulty and they ALL were grateful for the Intro level!!  As others have said, there were runs added that we would not have had. Jumping Chollas is offering Intro at the trial in Prescott Valley, AZ in 2 weeks as well and looking forward to watching those teams run their courses that are entered in Intro.

Yvette
Title: Re: Intro to Agility
Post by: cheyaut on May 09, 2014, 12:40:30 AM
Terry, I ran my dog Kip in some of the Intro classes at the Turns N Wraps trial. Some were video'd and are on youtube. Unfortunately youtube is blocked at work, so I cannot get you the links... but I think you can find them if you search youtube for CheyAut. That is my youtube name, and doing so you should be able to find my videos. They were uploaded just a couple days ago, you want to look for the Kip ones. 3 of his regular runs got video taped. We also did jumpers but didn't get video. For keywords I put border collie, nadac, and intro regular, so that might help you as well.

I LOVED the intro classes. Kip's brother, Dash, is my main agility dog and is in Elite. His brother Kip is a completely different dog. He still needs a lot of work (he hasn't had nearly the training that Dash has had as he is my husband's dog, and my husband isn't into doing agility, and his personality is just sooooo different (I swear, Dash was a mature dog at 9 weeks when I brought him home, while Kip is still all puppy at nearly 4 years old LOL)). Since TNW added the Intro, I thought I'd take Kip along to play in it. The courses were MUCH easier on us, and we actually Q'd 3 of the 4 regular, earning our Intro title! It even got me wanting to put Kip back in classes (I stopped doing classes with him due to conflicts with my other dogs' classes and just haven't put him back in yet).

And at the JCAC upcoming trial, I'm entering my young dog, Kat, in Intro. She's still learning some handling and distance stuff, but she's really good in class. I put her in a 3 day trial, just 2 days and not many classes/day and she did excellent the first day, but seemed not too happy the second day... but in class she's never like that. So I think the shortened courses and easier handling will be perfect for her confidence and happiness at trials at this stage in her training.

Without the Intro level, I wouldn't have entered Kip and Kat in these two trials.

Those who did the Intro sure seemed to really like and appreciate it! I think it's a WONDERFUL addition to the NADAC levels! :)
Title: Re: Intro to Agility
Post by: DataHound on May 17, 2014, 02:34:17 PM
I recall hearing somewhere that the handler can choose what jump height they want in Intro. Seeing as how I can't find a post confirming this, I am wondering if this is correct. Are dogs required to jump their regular jump height in Intro or can the handler choose the jump height.

Thanks

Sandy T
Sacramento 
Title: Re: Intro to Agility
Post by: Sharon Nelson on May 17, 2014, 05:32:17 PM
I recall hearing somewhere that the handler can choose what jump height they want in Intro. Seeing as how I can't find a post confirming this, I am wondering if this is correct. Are dogs required to jump their regular jump height in Intro or can the handler choose the jump height.

Thanks

Sandy T
Sacramento

They can choose any "lower" jump height for Intro if desired.  Handlers cannot jump higher then their normal height.

Sharon
Title: Re: Intro to Agility
Post by: Arlene Courtney on May 17, 2014, 09:19:55 PM
I got to run the Intro level of Regular today with my young dog who sometimes is less motivated than I would like her to be.  She loved it.  I can't wait to do it again tomorrow!

Arlene
Title: Re: Intro to Agility
Post by: Lorrie Stelz on May 19, 2014, 01:34:26 AM
My new puppy Tripp and I love the addition of the Intro class.  He's not ready for "prime-time" Novice classes yet, but these are great as he continues to learn and grow as a new agility dog and not be overwhelming.  It's been great for his confidence and for me seeing how he reacts in the ring vs. in training.

A question... what are the title abbreviations for the new Intro classes?

Thanks, Sharon, for what you do for NADAC!!  :)
Title: Re: Intro to Agility
Post by: Ktvialle on May 19, 2014, 12:37:36 PM
I also love the addition of Intro. It was offered this past weekend at the U2 Kan Du Agility trial and it was wonderful to see a large number of Elite handlers ringside watching and cheering the Intro handlers. Great addition!!
Title: Re: Intro to Agility
Post by: quamashbcs@yahoo.com on May 19, 2014, 07:26:07 PM
I think the abbreviations will be IAC, IJC, ICC, TG-I, WV-I, TN-I, HP-I. Not sure about extreme titles.

Frances & FitzRoy ICC O-TN-O
Title: Re: Intro to Agility
Post by: Lois Mierau on May 20, 2014, 02:44:01 PM
We added Intro to all of our classes at our trial this weekend and it was a huge hit! Our small trial had 187 Intro runs. It did add a fair bit of time on Saturday but we had to move contact equipment off and back on a couple of times. On Sunday there were fewer big moves and it only added a bit of time. We had brand new teams that weren't quite ready for novice, retired, older dogs that got to play one more time, shy dogs that can't quite handle a whole novice course, high drive dogs that go over the top on a whole novice course and slower, disabled teams that couldn't get through a whole novice course and they all did a wonderful job in Intro. I think this boosted confidence and got a few more beginners addicted.  I will gladly offer it again at our August trial.

Lois Mierau
Sondog Agility
Saskatoon, Sk.
Canada
Title: Re: Intro to Agility
Post by: ClairesK9s on June 14, 2014, 12:11:56 PM
So if my dog is entered in 3 novice classes can he also be entered into a intro level class at the same trial on the same day?
Title: Re: Intro to Agility
Post by: Sharon Nelson on June 14, 2014, 01:58:29 PM
So if my dog is entered in 3 novice classes can he also be entered into a intro level class at the same trial on the same day?

First, there is not an "Intro Class".  You could be entered at the Novice level in some classes and in the Intro level in a different class.  It is the same as being in Novice Jumpers and Open Chances.  You can always be in different levels in different classes.

You cannot enter two levels of the same class, such as Novice Jumpers and Intro Jumpers, but you could enter Intro Jumpers and Novice Touch N Go.  Different levels, different classes.

Good luck!

Sharon
Title: Re: Intro to Agility
Post by: dogrsqr on June 17, 2014, 10:26:29 AM
We are thinking of offering Intro level in some classes at our next trial.  One question I anticipate from exhibitors is ..... if you start out at the Intro level do you need to get Intro titles before you can move to Novice?   This might steer some folks away from Intro if there aren't enough opportunities offered.

Thanks,

Gina Pizzo
Title: Re: Intro to Agility
Post by: Sharon Nelson on June 17, 2014, 10:37:55 AM
We are thinking of offering Intro level in some classes at our next trial.  One question I anticipate from exhibitors is ..... if you start out at the Intro level do you need to get Intro titles before you can move to Novice?   This might steer some folks away from Intro if there aren't enough opportunities offered.

Thanks,

Gina Pizzo

No, there is no titling requirement for Intro.

Interestingly, we just had a trial that had more Intro entries than any other level, including Elite!!

Sharon
Title: Re: Intro to Agility
Post by: hppytail on June 17, 2014, 12:24:08 PM
Hi there,
We were at a trial where Intro was offered. I cant tell you how much my little dog improved in confidence as the weekend went on. I will say, however, that the clubs need to be aware of the jump height rule. This weekend was my friends very first nadac trial. She entered her 20" dog in 12, and was told it had to be regular jump height for the dog.  She has one bitch she hasn't OFA'd, and really wanted her to jump lower. Another off duty judge agreed that you couldn't just pick your jump height. It was a wonderful trial, very much enjoyed, great club. This isn't meant as a gripe, just drawing attention to the fact that this isn't familiar with some clubs and even judges
Title: Re: Intro to Agility
Post by: gm5bkc on June 19, 2014, 05:45:16 AM
Thank you, Sharon, for starting the Intro level !!

Last weekend my wife Merri and our special needs dog Hildie ran their first VT course, the Intro Weavers.  And they got a Q !!

Agility has changed Hildie's life.  She is much like an autistic child and our vet told us years ago that she would be on anti-anxiety medicine for life (Hildie is now 6).  We got another dog, Katie, 3 yrs ago and I started taking agility lessons with her.  Hildie also wanted to play and now loves tunnels and jumps, but it is hard for her to focus during long sequences.  We trained both dogs every day with weaves in the living room, and now even Hildie does them well (most of the time)  :-)   AND, Hildie was taken off the medicine 2 yrs ago!

Anyway, last weekend I tried the Intro jumpers course with Hildie but she ran past the last jump.  She follows Merri better than me, so we setup the Intro weavers and Merri and Hildie did it !   
Title: Re: Intro to Agility
Post by: Linda W. Anderson on June 19, 2014, 10:38:54 AM
This is such good news for you, your wife and your pups!  Congratulations on your accomplishments!
Linda
Title: Re: Intro to Agility
Post by: Merri on June 22, 2014, 08:27:01 AM
Thank you Sharon for starting the new Intro level and including it in the VT program.  As my husband said, it is perfect for our special needs dog Hildie..and for me.   With my bum ankle, I may never be able to "run" (more like shuffle or hobble around)  courses longer than the Intro and maybe later Novice level.  It is so wonderful to be able to do do something myself with my sweet dog that she can handle -- and I can too.   For years I have attended all the classes, practices, seminars and trials of our other dog, Katie, but I have not been able to do anything official because of Hildie's handicaps and mine.

I would add to my husband's comment that "focus" with Hildie has a lot to do with her fears of the world, people, any movement or sound or change in routine.  It is a lot different and more extreme than Katie's growing focus. Hildie's issues are more than fear --which is overwhelming in itself.  When her fear level drops, she then has a lot in common with the autistic son of a friend.  That is the best way to describe it.

The new Intro class is a great motivation to just get started.   This weekend I ordered some purple shorts for future Intro VT runs.  :-)
Title: Re: Intro to Agility
Post by: Deb Maicach on July 06, 2014, 04:59:46 PM
I know I'm late to this post, but I just want to add my THANK YOU for the Intro Class. It's the BEST THING ever that NADAC (read Sharon Nelson) has introduced. Intro Class is not only great for our babies, but it's also great for: 1) Veteran dogs who still want to play. They can collect NADAC points and still play! 2) Elite dogs practicing Extreme Distance. The handler simply stays farther away on a simplified course. 3) Baby dogs of course. 4) Experienced dogs with ring stress. The simplified courses alleviate so much of the ring stress! Thank you Sharon! I and the IG crew thank you from the bottom of our hearts!
Title: Re: Intro to Agility
Post by: ykozuki on July 07, 2014, 11:12:50 AM
Someone may have asked this already...but is there any talk to reduce the minimum age requirement for Intro class?  I am just curious. Thanks.

Yoriko
Title: Re: Intro to Agility
Post by: DebbieClark on July 08, 2014, 11:46:55 AM
We love Intro too  :D 

My little Roxie, did amazing at U2 Kan Do Agility this past weekend.  She Q'd 5 out of 6 runs and earned her very first title in Intro Chances.  She got spooked by a loud bang right before her last Chances run, but recovered :)  I am so proud of her!!

Thank you Sharon & Becky :)

Debbie & Roxie
Title: Re: Intro to Agility
Post by: DeafSheltieMom on August 06, 2014, 02:07:17 PM
I want to thank NADAC and Sharon (and her tireless crew) in developing the Intro level!  My baby dog Tesla ran her first trial a few weekends ago...  and she did great!  Few Qs, as we are still working on "turns" (she runs a course like a race car, straight and fast... turns are HARD  ;D )  Last night, she ran in her first mini-trial, in Intro EGC Gaters.  She improved considerably from her first trial, with close to 100 DRIs!  Would have been if we weren't "turn" challenged (darn that barrel wrap!  Guess what we're working on this week!  My timing, and her collection).  Confidence is not a problem with her, but WE as a TEAM are definitely a work-in-progress as Mom learns to handle a Maserati...  thanks again for giving us a place in a real trial to work on developing as a team, and keeping her confidence high.
-dayle, Tesla (Taz to her bestest friends), Alva & Hutch
Title: Re: Intro to Agility
Post by: Sharon Nelson on August 07, 2014, 05:30:34 PM
Someone may have asked this already...but is there any talk to reduce the minimum age requirement for Intro class?  I am just curious. Thanks.

Yoriko

Not at this time.

Sharon
Title: Re: Intro to Agility
Post by: kmricketts on September 05, 2014, 01:07:32 PM
Sharon, in an earlier post you had indicated that starting January first, 2015, Intro Level must be offered in all classes at a trial or not at all.  We're starting to work on our February trial and need to know if that is still going to be the rule or if it has changed.

thanks,
Karen
Title: Re: Intro to Agility
Post by: DeniseK on November 06, 2014, 12:10:52 PM
I would like to say THANKS for adding the Intro level! It's great for green dogs as well as senior dogs. I have done a few trials in this level and really love it!  ;D
Title: Re: Intro to Agility
Post by: Karin Bell on November 06, 2014, 01:09:44 PM
Our Club, Ready 2 Run, is also working on its plans for 2015.  We would like to know what the decision is on offering the Intro Level in 2015.  Can we pick and choose what classes we offer Intro Level?  We like this option because some classes make more sense to offer at the Intro Level than others. 

Thanks in advance for this information.
Title: Re: Intro to Agility
Post by: Sharon Nelson on November 06, 2014, 02:50:45 PM
Our Club, Ready 2 Run, is also working on its plans for 2015.  We would like to know what the decision is on offering the Intro Level in 2015.  Can we pick and choose what classes we offer Intro Level?  We like this option because some classes make more sense to offer at the Intro Level than others. 

Thanks in advance for this information.

As we have posted, as of Jan. 1, 2015, Intro can be offered on an "all" or nothing basis.  You either offer the Intro level or you don't.  You can't pick and choose which classes Intro is offered in 2015.  It actually makes a lot of sense to either offer Intro or don't offer Intro.  It is a level just like Novice, Open and Elite and you don't get to pick and choose which classes those levels will be offered or not.

Sharon
Title: Re: Intro to Agility
Post by: Shirley Wallace on November 06, 2014, 06:54:02 PM
We plan to offer Intro at our 2015 June trial in Wrenshall, MN.  But just out of curiosity, how does Intro Weavers work?  I know there are no weaves in Intro Regular, but can you run an Intro Weavers with no weaves???   ???
Shirley
Title: Re: Intro to Agility
Post by: Sharon Nelson on November 06, 2014, 07:17:17 PM
We plan to offer Intro at our 2015 June trial in Wrenshall, MN.  But just out of curiosity, how does Intro Weavers work?  I know there are no weaves in Intro Regular, but can you run an Intro Weavers with no weaves???   ???
Shirley

Intro Weavers has one set of 6 poles.

Sharon
Title: Re: Intro to Agility
Post by: Jeannie Biggers on November 06, 2014, 07:47:23 PM
Intro is an amazing addition from NADAC!!  We added it every class every trial since April and we have seen our Novice class now growing because those teams are gaining confidence, speed, and skills from Intro.   I truly believe we wouldnt have gotten most of these teams to stick it out if they had to do Novice right off... they are successful, they are having fun, the dogs are having fun, and THEY ARE GETTING RIBBONS AND Qs!!! 

Thanks NADAC for helping us get people into the sport just when we needed it!!!

Jeannie
GotDog? Agility
Title: Re: Intro to Agility
Post by: Pam Kaye on November 07, 2014, 07:17:10 PM
I attended a trial two weekends ago that offered Intro in all classes.  The organizers were thrilled with the response they had gotten and the number of entries they had at that level.

At the end of the month I'll be attending a trial that's offering Intro in all classes as well. 

I'm loving it with my dog that has only begun trialing recently.  My knee loves the courses, too.  And the courses are very well nested and do afford some real and appropriate challenges.
Title: Re: Intro to Agility
Post by: Team Twodog on November 07, 2014, 09:19:20 PM
I don't attend trials that don't offer Intro any more, that's how important an addition to NADAC I think it is. 

Having Intro is almost like embedding a fun match within a trial. Intro has so many uses I could go on for pages listing them all. I was a confirmed skeptic when Sharon first floated the idea, but as usual, her brilliance was soon revealed.
Title: Re: Intro to Agility
Post by: DeafSheltieMom on November 10, 2014, 04:46:11 PM
I have been doing Intro with my baby-brained papillon Tesla since July...  it has been the BEST thing for us as a team, as she gains confidence and ring savvy, and I learn to handle a race car :o.  We just got back from the LVDICE trial where I suggested they offer Intro, and the entries (and feedback) were very positive!  I'm so very grateful to NADAC for giving us an APPROPRIATE place to develop into a TEAM.
-Dayle and Tesla
Title: Re: Intro to Agility
Post by: quamashbcs@yahoo.com on November 10, 2014, 07:13:31 PM
I am also staying away from trials that don't offer Intro (and I am making sure they know why). The extra course builds do add to the trial day but around here we have more Intro dogs than Novice dogs in some classes (which just adds to the success of the trial and bodes so well for the future of NADAC). Like Kim I could go on and on about the benefits of Intro but will step off my soap box now....
Title: Re: Intro to Agility
Post by: Sharon Nelson on November 10, 2014, 07:33:26 PM
The increase in the number of runs speaks volumes about how people feel about Intro.  Many clubs now have a higher entry in Intro than any other level!

I LOVE Intro.  What a wonderful for starting a dog out in a successful, low stress run!  The handler can really focus on that connection and have a great experience for both the dog and handler!

Love it, love it, love it!!

Sharon
Title: Re: Intro to Agility
Post by: LeeAnne McAdam on November 10, 2014, 07:55:43 PM
I have only been to a couple of trials where Intro was offered, but it was great fun watching those new teams having so much success and coming off the courses so pleased with each other.  I think it's a great invention and well worth the effort!
Title: Re: Intro to Agility
Post by: Nicky wise on November 11, 2014, 01:38:16 AM
We love the Intro here in Australia , so great for beginners and also those dogs that are slowly coming into retirement, or for the handler . Best thing ever


Nicky&Grace
Title: Re: Intro to Agility
Post by: mephalon on November 11, 2014, 06:24:58 AM
My 18 month old is starting in Intro next month and we can't wait!   

However I have also found a different use for Intro.   My Rox is in Elite in everything but Regular (N), Weavers (we don't enter) and Chances (Open).   I promised her that after she got her Novice Triple Superior she would not have to weave again (sometimes we see them in Chances and I ask her to try, if she does them great if not we go on but still great).

I enter her in Intro Regular to practice our distance skills.  I create my own bonus line and see how we do-  the courses lend themselves to distance and we both love it!    So Intro is not just for newbies.

Title: Re: Intro to Agility
Post by: Janice_Shavor on November 11, 2014, 06:28:04 AM
The Canine Cruisers trial the first weekend in Nov offered Intro for Regular, Chances, and Jumpers.  This made it one of our most fun trials ever.  The Intro numbers were OK, the Day of Trial entries really helped (competing venue trial 2 hours away), but the best was watching those first ever teams Q or do really well!!

We will offer it for all classes next Spring.  I have retired from course building several times, but I will jump in to build for Intro.
Title: Re: Intro to Agility
Post by: Marcy Matties on November 11, 2014, 10:08:21 AM
And I've been using some of the Intro courses to practice distance in training - both backyard and at the training field.  Really helps to be able to "chunk" small portions of a potential course to focus on the distance skills we need work on - weaving going away, coming towards me and then turning away, etc.  I could just setup a portion of some bonus course, but having the Intro courses already there makes it easier in my feeble mind  ;D

I've also used some of the Intro courses for the same purpose with the competition class I teach.  I make those handlers work more distance without the "pressure" (self induced of course) of attempting an entire course.  They are often amazed at what their dog will do when they just trust them.

My 18 month old is starting in Intro next month and we can't wait!   

However I have also found a different use for Intro.   My Rox is in Elite in everything but Regular (N), Weavers (we don't enter) and Chances (Open).   I promised her that after she got her Novice Triple Superior she would not have to weave again (sometimes we see them in Chances and I ask her to try, if she does them great if not we go on but still great).

I enter her in Intro Regular to practice our distance skills.  I create my own bonus line and see how we do-  the courses lend themselves to distance and we both love it!    So Intro is not just for newbies.
Title: Re: Intro to Agility
Post by: Sharon Nelson on November 11, 2014, 10:19:10 AM
Marcy, I agree!  I think that many are really missing out on one of the greatest opportunities for Intro.  I have used it to prepare my "not yet" Novice dog and also an older dog to the "feel" of bonus work.  To be able to take an older dog out and work a shorter course and be totally connected to the handler without the tougher discriminations and longer courses is a real plus for distance work!!

I wish that more people that are looking at getting into bonus work would look at it from the dog's perspective and spend some time in Intro and be totally successful there before stepping out onto those Elite courses to try their first bonuses!!  You place yourself on the Intro course where you want and then increase the distance as you get more experience at being successful at those bigger distances!  Increases speed and confidence!

Sharon
Title: Re: Intro to Agility
Post by: LeeAnne McAdam on November 11, 2014, 02:54:51 PM
What a great idea!!! Jack and I will try that for sure!
Title: Re: Intro to Agility
Post by: Becky Wolfe on November 11, 2014, 03:01:55 PM
This fall I have been playing in Intro with my youngest, Herbie and we love it. It has been a great opportunity to work on his the connection, distance, directionals and confidence without too many obstacles. This last weekend we entered weavers for the first time, which gave me an idea of where is mind was with weaves in a different environment without too many obstacles. He did get the first pole then saw the tunnel and the next tunnel but then realized I wasn't working with him.  So he came back  to me and we became a team again, he did his weaves and finished the course. I will use Intro weavers to help gauge when he is ready for Novice regular.  So we love it and it makes me think about the trials I travel too.
Title: Re: Intro to Agility
Post by: Linda W. Anderson on November 11, 2014, 03:59:14 PM
We would really like to offer Intro at our March 20-22, 2015 trial, but are worried we won't have enough daylight to get everything in.  According to Timebie, we should have 12 hrs of daylight on that weekend with sunrise at 6:25 AM and sunset at 6:31 PM.  I would appreciate any information clubs can offer about how much time offering Intro in all 6 classes would add to the day.  Offering Intro would not change the total number of runs offered No time added there), but it does add time for course building and walk throughs.  You can post information here or e-mail me privately at lindaezri@yahoo.com  Thanks in advance for your replies. 
Linda
Title: Re: Intro to Agility
Post by: Jeannie Biggers on November 11, 2014, 05:17:32 PM
Hi Linda,

I dont know exactly how much time but I do know that the course changes take like 2 minutes and usually the walk thrus are less then 3 minutes.  If I had to guess I would say it would add no more then an hour to a trial....
Title: Re: Intro to Agility
Post by: Pam Kaye on November 11, 2014, 05:52:25 PM
Linda,

I agree with Jeannie's estimate, but I do think it might increase your entries...
Title: Re: Intro to Agility
Post by: quamashbcs@yahoo.com on November 11, 2014, 06:18:51 PM
Many people do not even walk the course as the sequence is usually very obvious. So quite a lot of time saved there.
Title: Re: Intro to Agility
Post by: quamashbcs@yahoo.com on November 11, 2014, 06:30:51 PM
Another way to save time is to adjust the order of classes so that contacts are not being dragged on and off the field.

At a trial this weekend we finished Saturday with Intro Chances. A lot of equipment had to put back on field for Elite Chances on Sunday morning, then removed for Intro Chances, and then put back on again for Elite Regular. Clearly that could have been managed differently.

Do the course designer(s) suggest optimal class orders when they submit courses?
Title: Re: Intro to Agility
Post by: Erin Wajda on November 12, 2014, 07:24:01 PM
It is hard to quantify, but we added Intro in all classes this season and my gut says it only added 30 minutes to at most 1 hour to the day.
Title: Intro to Agility added to spring Star City Roanoke, VA trial
Post by: Linda W. Anderson on November 12, 2014, 08:13:51 PM
Thanks to everyone who posted about adding Intro.  We have decided to try it in the spring.  We are changing our start time from 8:00 AM to 7:30 AM and will also be timing walk throughs.  Hopefully these changes will provide enough time to complete all classes before it gets too dark.
Linda
Title: Re: Intro to Agility
Post by: Sheila & the Shelties on November 12, 2014, 10:35:08 PM
What a great idea!

My 18 month old is starting in Intro next month and we can't wait!   

However I have also found a different use for Intro.   My Rox is in Elite in everything but Regular (N), Weavers (we don't enter) and Chances (Open).   I promised her that after she got her Novice Triple Superior she would not have to weave again (sometimes we see them in Chances and I ask her to try, if she does them great if not we go on but still great).

I enter her in Intro Regular to practice our distance skills.  I create my own bonus line and see how we do-  the courses lend themselves to distance and we both love it!    So Intro is not just for newbies.
Title: Re: Intro to Agility
Post by: Jeanne Allen on November 13, 2014, 06:10:24 PM
Linda,

My club just had a three day trial and we had Intro in every class.  From a Chief Course builder perspective it all comes down to how much help you have.  If you have a lot of help the changes can be made quickly.  But if there is only the judge, myself and maybe 2 other people it takes longer. 

I know you are dealing with the amount of daylight, but starting earlier and setting a time for walk throughs will help.  The other thing I notice about my local trial is when we are done building and numbering a course and ready to let the handlers walk, most of the time there is no one there ready to walk the course.  I travel a lot to do NADAC and at all of those trials the handlers are chomping at the bit to get out on the course to walk it.

I love Intro for both the baby dogs just learning the sport and for the older dogs that can not do as much, but still love playing the game!
Title: Re: Intro to Agility
Post by: Sharon Nelson on November 13, 2014, 06:49:08 PM
Linda,

My club just had a three day trial and we had Intro in every class.  From a Chief Course builder perspective it all comes down to how much help you have.  If you have a lot of help the changes can be made quickly.  But if there is only the judge, myself and maybe 2 other people it takes longer. 

I know you are dealing with the amount of daylight, but starting earlier and setting a time for walk throughs will help.  The other thing I notice about my local trial is when we are done building and numbering a course and ready to let the handlers walk, most of the time there is no one there ready to walk the course.  I travel a lot to do NADAC and at all of those trials the handlers are chomping at the bit to get out on the course to walk it.

I love Intro for both the baby dogs just learning the sport and for the older dogs that can not do as much, but still love playing the game!

We have found the same thing happening, Jeanne.  When you open for walk-through they have all gone to get their dogs to run and no one even walks the courses!   They watch the setting and where the numbers are put and go get their dogs!

Sharon
Title: Re: Intro to Agility
Post by: Linda W. Anderson on November 13, 2014, 07:03:48 PM
Linda,

My club just had a three day trial and we had Intro in every class.  From a Chief Course builder perspective it all comes down to how much help you have.  If you have a lot of help the changes can be made quickly.  But if there is only the judge, myself and maybe 2 other people it takes longer. 

I know you are dealing with the amount of daylight, but starting earlier and setting a time for walk throughs will help.  The other thing I notice about my local trial is when we are done building and numbering a course and ready to let the handlers walk, most of the time there is no one there ready to walk the course.  I travel a lot to do NADAC and at all of those trials the handlers are chomping at the bit to get out on the course to walk it.

I love Intro for both the baby dogs just learning the sport and for the older dogs that can not do as much, but still love playing the game!

We have found the same thing happening, Jeanne.  When you open for walk-through they have all gone to get their dogs to run and no one even walks the courses!   They watch the setting and where the numbers are put and go get their dogs!

Sharon

I have only been to two trials locally that have offered Intro, but at both of them, all the handlers have walked the courses.  I think this is because they are brand new handlers.  In addition to the adjustments we are already planning, at the briefing I will ask exhibitors to be ready to walk as soon as the course are built no matter what the level. 

Thanks again to all who have posted ideas and suggestions.
Linda
Title: Re: Intro to Agility
Post by: Team Twodog on November 13, 2014, 08:59:57 PM
One of the MANY great things about Intro is that since many experienced handlers skip the walkthrough, those new handlers who do want to walk the course do not have to wade through crowds of others doing the same thing.
Title: RE: Updating NADAC Checklist
Post by: Jan Adams Lukenbill on November 29, 2014, 08:49:52 PM
Sharon,
When will you be adding Intro to the NADAC Title Checklist?  Will you be updating the NADAC rule book any time in the future? 

Me and my Chihuahuas are really enjoying the Intro classes.  Gidget is almost ready to try out Novice Regulars again.  I'm waiting until she gets 200 points in Intro Regulars.  This has been a great addition to the NADAC trials.  If it wasn't for this new class, I might have dropped out of NADAC competition or at least not entered as many classes this past year. 

Great job!

Thanks,

Jan
Title: Re: Intro to Agility
Post by: cheyaut on December 07, 2014, 02:31:17 AM
Linda, our club usually has two rings, with two judges, to handle more entries.

But I've been to trials that have two rings with one judge. While courses are being run in one ring, the other ring is open for course builders to set the next course. Then that ring will be run, while the first one is changed to the next class. Of course, that does mean having enough equipment to do this, but if you did, say, tunnelers in one while jumpers was running, then the tunnelers changed to regular (if you have enough jumps), etc... basically setting up the run order to not need to use contacts in both rings if possible (unless you do have enough to duplicate in the rings), that will save a lot of time as the trial can continue running while the next class course is being set.

Hope that made sense!

Jessi
Title: Re: RE: Updating NADAC Checklist
Post by: Sharon Nelson on December 17, 2014, 05:10:08 PM
Sharon,
When will you be adding Intro to the NADAC Title Checklist?  Will you be updating the NADAC rule book any time in the future? 

Me and my Chihuahuas are really enjoying the Intro classes.  Gidget is almost ready to try out Novice Regulars again.  I'm waiting until she gets 200 points in Intro Regulars.  This has been a great addition to the NADAC trials.  If it wasn't for this new class, I might have dropped out of NADAC competition or at least not entered as many classes this past year. 

Great job!

Thanks,

Jan

That is my big winter project is the new rulebook, now that the Hall of Fame is on it's way!

Sharon
Title: Re: Intro to Agility
Post by: Maureen deHaan on December 19, 2014, 06:43:08 AM
Had a little down time at work (not really - but I needed a brain break)  I updated my own personal checklist to include Intro - happy to share and happy to let NADAC use it since the original template came from NADAC :)

Happy to make one for EGC Sharon - just need to know official abbreviations and point markers for titles
Title: Re: Intro to Agility
Post by: Sharon Nelson on December 19, 2014, 08:52:16 AM
Had a little down time at work (not really - but I needed a brain break)  I updated my own personal checklist to include Intro - happy to share and happy to let NADAC use it since the original template came from NADAC :)

Happy to make one for EGC Sharon - just need to know official abbreviations and point markers for titles

Thanks, Maureen!!  It is very appreciated!

Sharon
Title: Re: Intro to Agility
Post by: Maureen deHaan on December 19, 2014, 09:39:23 AM
found a small typo here is the corrected one
Title: Re: Intro to Agility
Post by: Lynn Koeppen on January 07, 2015, 06:32:49 PM
One of the MANY great things about Intro is that since many experienced handlers skip the walkthrough, those new handlers who do want to walk the course do not have to wade through crowds of others doing the same thing.
The walk through is a very important time for me as a new handler. It would be very helpful to new handlers to be able to ask more experienced handlers questions during the walk through.
Title: Re: Intro to Agility
Post by: Janice_Shavor on January 08, 2015, 07:05:00 AM
Watch some of the earlier, more advanced runs and then ask some of the ones who run a dog that runs like yours for a little help.  Some other venues require that all handlers on the walk through have dogs entered in that class.

Also, if you are taking lessons, request a session or 2 cover what you need to do and look out for in your walk through.
Title: Re: Intro to Agility
Post by: Lynn Koeppen on January 12, 2015, 08:47:31 PM
Watch some of the earlier, more advanced runs and then ask some of the ones who run a dog that runs like yours for a little help.  Some other venues require that all handlers on the walk through have dogs entered in that class.

Also, if you are taking lessons, request a session or 2 cover what you need to do and look out for in your walk through.
Thanks for the helpful tips. I ask lots of questions, probably too many!  ::)
Title: Re: Intro to Agility
Post by: danforth on January 13, 2015, 09:32:50 AM
I have found that I love to ring crew for the Elite runs.  I learn so much about how other handlers run their dogs.  I also see where problem spots are for those other dogs that I might not have seen just doing a walk thru.   Now that we are running in a lot of Elite classes, I really miss being able to closely watch those really good handlers.

Isabel
Title: Re: Intro to Agility
Post by: Karl Schulzki on January 26, 2015, 05:29:20 PM
Can we choose which classes have Intro level or do we have to offer Intro in all classes on a weekend?
Title: Re: Intro to Agility
Post by: Sharon Nelson on January 26, 2015, 05:35:26 PM
Can we choose which classes have Intro level or do we have to offer Intro in all classes on a weekend?

We originally said that it was an all or nothing status as of Jan. 1 2015, but we are willing to extend that deadline to Jan. 1, 2016.

Sharon
Title: Re: Intro to Agility
Post by: DougRicks on January 26, 2015, 10:39:09 PM
Hi
Let me put on a little personal experience with Intro as trial chair, And long time Agility addict. I'm
.  First as trial chair. We embraced and promoted intro for all classes as soon as it came out. At our trial a couple of weeks ago we had as many entries in intro as we did in novice.  And several dogs and handlers had much improvement as they worked thru the shorter and simpler courses. It was also heartwarming to see a couple of senior champions do a little play run at four inches.
.  Intro accounted for over 10 percent of the runs (including egc) and were the difference in making a modest profit and not losing money on the trial. With 500 runs per day, and with 50 or so intro, we went about an hour longer than when we did no intro. Course builders liked that it was a matter of taking off things, like when we took off tunnels and weaves for intro weavers before going to jumpers.
.  As a club that also offers classes, we would hate to not have this level available for our students that are getting ready to compete. 
.  As a judge I have seen how much it can make trials of all size entries have more people involved, and provide a great starting point.
.  And as a handler, as my dog developes to the point of working greater distance, I will be liking the idea of working away on those simpler courses for contacts and my movement and cues.
.  Bottom line, thanks to Sharon for allowing folks to dip a toe in the pool. And for letting others dive in and swim.
Doug Ricks
Extreme Agility team
Title: Re: Intro to Agility
Post by: Lisa Schmit In The Zone Agility on January 27, 2015, 03:37:36 AM
Thanks Sharon!!  I appreciate being able to pick what classes we can do intro in.   Honestly, I was not going to offer intro this year because I did not want to have to offer intro in the non- jumping classes.    Now,  I will continue to offer it in. Jumping classes.   
Title: Re: Intro to Agility
Post by: Sharon Nelson on January 27, 2015, 05:54:27 PM
Hi
Let me put on a little personal experience with Intro as trial chair, And long time Agility addict. I'm
.  First as trial chair. We embraced and promoted intro for all classes as soon as it came out. At our trial a couple of weeks ago we had as many entries in intro as we did in novice.  And several dogs and handlers had much improvement as they worked thru the shorter and simpler courses. It was also heartwarming to see a couple of senior champions do a little play run at four inches.
.  Intro accounted for over 10 percent of the runs (including egc) and were the difference in making a modest profit and not losing money on the trial. With 500 runs per day, and with 50 or so intro, we went about an hour longer than when we did no intro. Course builders liked that it was a matter of taking off things, like when we took off tunnels and weaves for intro weavers before going to jumpers.
.  As a club that also offers classes, we would hate to not have this level available for our students that are getting ready to compete. 
.  As a judge I have seen how much it can make trials of all size entries have more people involved, and provide a great starting point.
.  And as a handler, as my dog developes to the point of working greater distance, I will be liking the idea of working away on those simpler courses for contacts and my movement and cues.
.  Bottom line, thanks to Sharon for allowing folks to dip a toe in the pool. And for letting others dive in and swim.
Doug Ricks
Extreme Agility team

Thank you, Doug, for a well written response that gives the perspective of club leader, judge, and the exhibitors.

Sharon
Title: Re: Intro to Agility
Post by: Jeannie Biggers on January 27, 2015, 06:09:52 PM
I honestly think that clubs that dont offer Intro in ALL classes are missing the boat.... we have offered it in every class at every trial since last April and it has made a HUGE difference in income to the clubs AND getting new people involved in the sport.  It is an amazing goal for instructors to people to be excited about teaching the hardest obstacle of all.. weaves.  When people start playing at Intro they get the bug and actually want to spend more time training on their own to get better and better :)  It has made it MUCH easier to get people going!  So thanks NADAC for giving us an awesome tool to grow the sport in Montana!
Title: Re: Intro to Agility
Post by: quamashbcs@yahoo.com on January 27, 2015, 07:15:52 PM
I think that the attitude of clubs and/or trial secretaries will make or break Intro in a particular area of the country. Clubs that embrace Intro wholeheartedly and offer it in all classes find that entries in Intro are comparable or even larger than Novice.  Clubs that are on the fence and only offer Intro in jumping classes find that many people just choose to enter Novice (because they don't know any better and/or the Club has not bothered to educate them), and you end up with only 2-3 dogs in Intro. This is a slippery slope which will probably stop those Clubs offering Intro in the future (due to perception that they are doing "unnecessary and time consuming" course building).

It is good that Clubs have the option to keep offering Intro in some classes (I will always enter Intro over Novice when it is offered) but it is not pushing them to really try and develop the program to the benefit of all dogs and handlers.

My solution will probably be wildly unpopular but I think that some number of Intro level Qs should be mandatory for people wanting to enter Novice. Maybe just one or two Qs in each class could be required to progress rather than three Qs? Maybe a new Versatility title such as Intro Star (one or two Qs on each Intro class). Dogs would still be able to stay in Intro for an actual title (three Qs) or Outstanding and Superior titles etc.....

OK flame suit ON!!!
Title: Re: Intro to Agility
Post by: Jeanne Allen on January 27, 2015, 08:17:27 PM
Frances Hannan I can agree with you!  My young dog is really not weaving so I really love the Intro class because they do not have weaves (except the one set in Intro Weavers).  If there is a trial that I would enter that only offered Intro in the jumping classes then there would be some of the games classes that I would not enter at all, not even Novice.  I have an entry I am getting ready to send in and the club does offer Intro in all classes.  I am going to bite the bullet and put my young dog in Intro Weavers, so out of the total of 13 runs for the weekend 9 of those runs will be at the Intro level.  Now as an example, if the trial I am about to enter only offered Intro in Jumping classes, then there would be 3 less runs for my young dog, so that means only 10 runs vs 13 and going by the pricing for this trial that would be $24 that the club would not get because they did not offer Intro in the games classes.  That loss could add up especially if a club is struggling to break even.
Title: Re: Intro to Agility
Post by: DeafSheltieMom on January 27, 2015, 08:25:26 PM
No flaming necessary... I agree with you, particularly regarding how instructors educate their new students regarding the benefits of Intro.  We've had some dogs that started in Novice that I think would benefit greatly if they were in Intro instead.  The shorter, "easier" courses build the dogs' mental and physical abilities on the agility field, while at the same time, build teamwork with their handlers, in a setting that helps build success.  However, instructors may not see these benefits, or may not understand what Intro provides.  Perhaps more education regarding the philosophy behind Intro is necessary, but how to spread that word to instructors???  I don't know...  Maybe handouts during BA tests (which are wildly popular here)?  A flyer explaining the class available at trials? 

I also don't think requiring Intro is necessary, either.  Some teams are "ready" for Novice from the start.  It really depends upon each individual team. 

I ran my papillon in Intro until she turned two, and even then, we ran it until I felt WE were ready to move on.  I used some runs to develop distance, handling moves, teaching her to "turn", teaching me to be in better position.  When we recently trialed indoors on dirt for the first time, I moved her back to Intro.  I needed to see how the change of environment, equipment and footing affected her mentally.  I'm overly cautious with my girl, but that was actually a good idea, as she negatively responded to their dogwalk.  Intro allowed us to work up to her gaining experience and confidence with the new equipment.  Thus, I'll always be a staunch proponent of Intro, and as the course builder, will never, ever gripe about an "extra" class to course build for.  It is vital to the development of new teams, and attracting new folks to NADAC.  I only hope others see this benefit as well.
-dayle
Title: Re: Intro to Agility
Post by: Sharon Nelson on January 27, 2015, 08:38:18 PM
I am getting more and more correspondence from competitors that state if Intro isn't offered by a club in all classes, then they will choose to keep their entry money for a different trial.  And some of these people don't even have a dog to enter into Intro, they just want to support clubs that don't pick and choose who they want at their trial by limiting entries at some levels.

Intro is getting more and more popular each week!!

It is sometimes referred to as limiting entries into Intro is like saying that the club also would want to limit the types of bonuses offered for the distance people.

People love Intro!

Sharon
Title: Re: Intro to Agility
Post by: quamashbcs@yahoo.com on January 27, 2015, 09:20:43 PM
If we just nickel and dime the Clubs by not entering all 12 runs it won't demonstrate why we LOVE intro. Especially for "popular" trials.

I am guilty of entering an upcoming trial which doesn't offer ANY Intro classes. They have filled and will not do any DOT entries. My pup is a Tunnelers savant so we are in Elite for that class. She also managed to get Superior Intro Chances & is pretty close to Superior Intro Jumpers so I am comfortable entering Novice in those classes BUT not expecting anything AT ALL. I chose to throw some money towards one Regular run each day (since I am driving 3+ hours to attend this trial).

I would be SO MUCH happier about my choice to enter this trial IF they had Intro. Obviously I am not in their "catchment area" but many people from my region do travel in winter to attend trials and we ALL have young dogs that are getting ready for the big time...
Title: Re: Intro to Agility
Post by: Anne Etherton on January 28, 2015, 07:03:46 AM
My dog was in novice and open classes but I decided to move her to intro because we have been having space issues. The simpler courses allowed me to handle this, and we both were happier. The clubs in Southern California are offering it and are well received. :)
Title: Re: Intro to Agility
Post by: Elisabeth on January 28, 2015, 07:30:02 AM
Regarding the Intro class - can you enter your dog at their normal jump height (say 20+ for a young dog that measures 25 inches at the shoulder), or do you have to enter at one height lower (so 16 for a dog that measures 25 inches at the shoulder)?
Title: Re: Intro to Agility
Post by: Dan Roy on January 28, 2015, 09:28:36 AM
From a new club's perspective - we have always gone with the flow of what other clubs are doing and what seems a good idea. When Intro came out, we offered it in every class. We did the same by offering BA testing, EGC, and Bonus Lines. Through our experience we have gained some perspective in offering Intro.

Intro Pros
1. Gives a new dog and or handler an important training opportunity
2. If the owner has a successful experience then that reflects positively on the club
3. It normally increases entries for the club

Intro Cons
1. It takes more time for course building, walk-thrus, and running
2. It takes away from the time that may be necessary to run the other classes
3. If you only have one or two Intro dogs, it could cause those exhibitors to feel that they are an imposition

If it is possible to strike a happy medium, I would like the option of offering Intro in a few (3) key classes each day:
- Both rounds of Regular
- One Non-jumping class

I think that offering those 3 runs is enough for an Intro level dog in one day. They still have the option to enter other classes as a Novice.

It would be rare for an exhibitor in our area to say, "we will not do that trial unless they offer Intro in every class". Most of the Intro people are happy with what we do offer.

The club has a responsibility for all exhibitors. It is important to note that a trial that takes too long or causes dogs to run in near darkness can be more disruptive than not offering Intro in every class. I do understand that there are many ways to save time. Limiting how many Intro classes are offered is a just one option I think a club should have.

Dan Roy
Performance Dog Training

Title: Re: Intro to Agility
Post by: Linda W. Anderson on January 28, 2015, 01:00:52 PM
The trial secretary and I thought long and hard before deciding to add Intro to our Spring trial.  Having or not having Intro had nothing to do with whether or not we thought it would be received well.  It had everything to do with whether or not we would have enough daylight to complete the trial each day.  Our trial is held out doors with no lights and fairly early in  the spring when daylight is at a premium.  I would have perffered to offer Intro in 3 or 4 classes, thus reducing the amount of time needed, but at the time our trial application was submitted, that was no longer an option.  I really like the idea of Intro for all the reasons already stated here and want to continue to offer it.  It remains to be seen how this will play out.
Linda Anderson 
Trial Chair
Star City Caning Training club
Roanoke, VA
Title: Re: Intro to Agility
Post by: Lynn Koeppen on January 28, 2015, 05:43:49 PM
From a new club's perspective - we have always gone with the flow of what other clubs are doing and what seems a good idea. When Intro came out, we offered it in every class. We did the same by offering BA testing, EGC, and Bonus Lines. Through our experience we have gained some perspective in offering Intro.

Intro Pros
1. Gives a new dog and or handler an important training opportunity
2. If the owner has a successful experience then that reflects positively on the club
3. It normally increases entries for the club

Intro Cons
1. It takes more time for course building, walk-thrus, and running
2. It takes away from the time that may be necessary to run the other classes
3. If you only have one or two Intro dogs, it could cause those exhibitors to feel that they are an imposition

If it is possible to strike a happy medium, I would like the option of offering Intro in a few (3) key classes each day:
- Both rounds of Regular
- One Non-jumping class

I think that offering those 3 runs is enough for an Intro level dog in one day. They still have the option to enter other classes as a Novice.

It would be rare for an exhibitor in our area to say, "we will not do that trial unless they offer Intro in every class". Most of the Intro people are happy with what we do offer.

The club has a responsibility for all exhibitors. It is important to note that a trial that takes too long or causes dogs to run in near darkness can be more disruptive than not offering Intro in every class. I do understand that there are many ways to save time. Limiting how many Intro classes are offered is a just one option I think a club should have.

Dan Roy
Performance Dog Training
I am a new handler and have a new dog learning agility. We won't go to a trial that only offers 3 runs per day. The travel expenses are too much to only do 3 runs. we would choose to stay home and train. It would seem to me that if you are a new club and you want new members you would cater to new handlers. If the sport of agility is to grow you need to do things to bring in new people and their dogs. The open and elite people are already hooked! LOL
Title: Re: Intro to Agility
Post by: Lisa Schmit In The Zone Agility on January 29, 2015, 04:19:25 AM
I wholeheartedly agree with Dan and would love the option to offer it in non jumping classes.  For Itz, that would be 4 classes a day.    ITZ offered intro in non jumping classes last year and it worked out well!  I heard no complaints from exhibitors that I did not offer it in touchngo tunnelers or weavers as they were running 4 classes a day.

I really want to continue to offer intro so I really hope that NADAC will allow us to choose classes.

I completely understand the logic of it being a level and should be offered in all classes.....
but the reality of the time and course building weighs heavily on my decision to offer it.
Title: Re: Intro to Agility
Post by: dogrsqr on January 29, 2015, 10:29:37 AM
I think it's always a good idea to look at things from all perspectives.  We have added some intro classes to our last two trials to test the waters and see how it would be received.  Two of our three trials are held outdoors with unfenced rings.  We weren't sure how this would be received by handlers with Intro level dogs. The entry was fairly good for our outdoor trial, but we'll have to see how it continues.

Our indoor trial is very popular and we are typically close to filling 500 runs per day.  We added Intro tunnelers, jumpers and both regular each day this year.  It was very well received, almost as many entries as Open, but the extra course building does extend an already long day.  We were rushing our judge to the airport, which is not something we like to do.  I don't think we can add any more Intro classes to that trial and still finish at an acceptable time.  If we were required to offer all Intro classes or none we would likely have to offer none for that trial.

It really isn't about not wanting to offer all Intro classes.  The extra course building does add to the length of a day and that has to work logistically.  We could put a lower limit on our entry, but honestly we need the dollars to pay the rent at this awesome soccer facility ($1200/day).

Gina Pizzo
Title: Re: Intro to Agility
Post by: Sharon Nelson on January 29, 2015, 11:15:56 AM
I think that allowing clubs to choose their own formats will give competitors a chance to also give input to what their needs are.  Most clubs just want to make their customers happy!

Sharon
Title: Re: Intro to Agility
Post by: DeniseK on January 29, 2015, 11:30:28 AM
My dogs and I are loving the Intro level!  And I am making a point to thank host clubs for offering it. I'm also trying to get the word out to people who may be getting into NADAC about it. I can't tell you the number of times I've been told to just go out and do a few obstacles and celebrate with your dog. Intro is exactly that! Even though I would love for local clubs to offer it in all classes, if they don't, I will enter those that are offered and do Novice with Gunner if that's our only option.
Title: Re: Intro to Agility
Post by: Jan Adams Lukenbill on January 29, 2015, 08:49:18 PM
Thanks Maureen for making up a new points sheet.  Love it!!!
Title: Re: Intro to Agility
Post by: James Bell on January 30, 2015, 12:25:05 AM
I'll admit it, originally I was an Intro-denier. I couldn't see the point, and thought it would really eat into the day with all the extra course building and walking. Novice was short and simple enough and it was a handler training issue if they couldn't figure out how to take what successes they could get on the course even if they didn't get every single obstacle completed.

And then I watched it. Well, technically I judged it, but I do tend to watch at the same time oddly enough. :-)

Experienced handlers know that part above about taking and celebrating those successes you can, because every single one of us has applied our own heads to that brick wall with our first dogs, have burned those circles around obstacles forcing our green dogs to do EVERY SINGLE OBSTACLE come hell or high water, certain that's what our dogs needed to understand, right up to the point that both we and the dog began to reconsider whether this was actually fun. If you didn't have a trainer to ease you and the dog away from that wall, well it took a lot longer to get that one figured out.

That's why Intro is brilliant, imho. Half the obstacles means you and your dog don't have time to get into that deadly frustration destructive feedback loop, even if you do get stuck trying to burn those circles. After a year of watching it, I have yet to see a dog and handler leave frustrated. I've seen fearful or bashful or quick-to-disconnect dogs forget to be that because it was over before they thought about it, and they've all left *happy* and improved drastically over a weekend.

I am a believer, a convert, a proponent, heck, an evangelist! I'm not going to say I think it should be a mandatory level completed before entering Novice - some folks with available trainers may be ready to shift up - but I will say that this is a new trick that every old dog (yes, I'm even looking at us curmudgeonly elite handlers) could get fantastic value from, really a pure happiness class.
Title: Re: Intro to Agility
Post by: Rena Bonem on January 30, 2015, 06:59:27 AM
The other group that I am starting to see in Intro classes are dogs close to retirement who can only run a few obstacles but still enjoy playing.  It seems to work for young and old alike.
Title: Re: Intro to Agility
Post by: A Jussero on January 30, 2015, 08:35:37 AM
James Bell:  You said it all!!!
Title: Re: Intro to Agility
Post by: Team Twodog on January 31, 2015, 12:05:59 AM
Intro courses are also a great place to start working on distance handling. I think every Intro course should include a bonus box for those who want to give it a try :)
Title: Re: Intro to Agility
Post by: Pam Kaye on January 31, 2015, 07:11:49 PM
What James said!
Title: Re: Intro to Agility
Post by: Karin Bell on February 01, 2015, 10:45:39 AM
I agree completely with what James said about Intro.  Well put! 

Thank you for expressing my thoughts so well for me!   ;)
Title: Re: Intro to Agility
Post by: mephalon on February 02, 2015, 01:40:57 PM
I may be in the minority but I think Intro in Chances and the non-jumping classes make much more sense that in Regular and Jumpers.

In Chances, Touch n Go, Tunnelers and Weavers all levels run the same course (with less yps required, less distance and less weaves).   Intro in those classes makes sense as the courses are simplier for the Intro dog that may not be ready to run an Elite course at a slower yps or closer distance.  You do not have the discrimination in Touch n Go, 3 sets of 6 weaves in weavers or the distance in Chances.  I see an argument for not needing Intro tunnelers- depending on the course.   It would have been perfect for my Otis.   

I have a new dog I debuted in Intro and it is perfect for us.  It has allowed us to perfect our teamwork in a trial setting.  I may not get his Intro superiors like I do at the other levels but we will get our basic intro titles.

As a trial host I too share the concern about adding time to the day.   However our Intro numbers often surpass our Novice numbers and always surpass our Open numbers.   Often at a trial we are building a course for one open dog (has many times been me) and no one thinks that is a waste of time (or if they do they are silent about it :-) )

We will continue to offer Intro at our trials because they have gotten more people to come try NADAC in our area and aside from that it I see value in it in so many ways.   

I for one would rather see Intro in Chances, Touch N Go and Weavers than in Regular/Jumpers. 

m
Title: Re: Intro to Agility
Post by: Murrelet Halterman on February 02, 2015, 03:51:57 PM
Agree 100% with James. Also, because it isn't mandatory, handlers are not so worried about titles and Qs.

Love it!

Thanks, Murrelet
Title: Re: Intro to Agility
Post by: Tikvah01es on February 02, 2015, 06:19:19 PM
I, too, love Intro.  Totally agree with James.  It is so awesome to watch the older dogs. What a great way for them to still play!  Baby dogs have way to succeed.  It helps their brains get adjusted to the trial setting and their not stress as much.  I love watching the smiles on the course and off.  Succeed or not as a team while running, doesn't matter because it was fun!  It is great to see the number of people trying it going up!

Rachelle
Title: Re: Intro to Agility
Post by: dogrsqr on February 03, 2015, 10:14:00 AM
As a trial host I too share the concern about adding time to the day.   However our Intro numbers often surpass our Novice numbers and always surpass our Open numbers.   Often at a trial we are building a course for one open dog (has many times been me) and no one thinks that is a waste of time (or if they do they are silent about it :-) )

We will continue to offer Intro at our trials because they have gotten more people to come try NADAC in our area and aside from that it I see value in it in so many ways.   

I for one would rather see Intro in Chances, Touch N Go and Weavers than in Regular/Jumpers. 

m

I don't think intro is a waste of time, and I did joke at our last trial that maybe we could not offer open and run Intro instead.  THAT WAS A JOKE! 

However since we aren't required to offer Intro and if you are going to run into issues with time the easiest solution will be to not offer intro or not offer all of the Intro classes.  We will continue to offer Intro as well, I'm just happy we don't have to offer it in all classes so I don't have to make a choice.  Outdoor trials with 300 runs a day; not a problem.  Indoor trial with 500 runs a day; a problem.

We have not offered Intro in Chances, Touch and Go, Weavers or Hoopers yet.  We are considering mixing them up at each trial so that the Intro folks can still get all of their titles if they want to.  I think Intro Weavers could be a God send and I'd encourage lots of people to enter their Novice level dogs in Intro Weavers.

Gina Pizzo
Title: Re: Intro to Agility
Post by: Joyce Roessner on February 03, 2015, 05:34:18 PM
Well said James, totally agree. 
Title: Re: Intro to Agility
Post by: Maureen deHaan on February 04, 2015, 02:59:36 AM
As a trial host and a handler of a baby Husky dog who really needs Intro for focus - I will always offer Intro in all classes at trials I host- the course changes are not that big a deal and it fills a need for some and it lets more dogs/ people play.

Personally as a handler I would rather enter my baby dog in all intro classes and choose to scratch later in the day if her mental capacity is done or be happy to keep running her as she has shown to get better as the day goes on, rather than only have maybe 2-3 opportunities for her to play during the day -

For me to travel with this dog to other trials that only offer a couple of events for intro is a waste to me as she would be cooling her heels far too much during the day and that would be detrimental to her in the ring...so I probably wouldn't enter her so the club would lose $ . 

I know in certain areas in the east  Intro is poo-pooed for whatever reason - but I think its great and that's not just because I have a dog who needs it right now -
Title: Re: Intro to Agility
Post by: JackieTomayer on February 04, 2015, 10:27:50 AM
This past weekend at a trial I entered my two elite dogs in Intro and LOVED it - I was working distance and a specific training goal and achieved it with both my guys - they got to be successful in a trial situation and we all left very very happy. I also started a new dog this weekend in Intro and loved it for her - just enough challenge to make us work as a team and come away very successful :)
It's a great class!
Title: Re: Intro to Agility
Post by: quamashbcs@yahoo.com on February 04, 2015, 07:29:12 PM
I REALLY like the idea of including optional bonus boxes/lines on INTRO courses so people can TRY OUT their distance skills without all the pressure of running an Elite course. Everyone has to start somewhere....
Title: Re: Intro to Agility
Post by: Sharon Nelson on February 04, 2015, 07:44:43 PM
I REALLY like the idea of including optional bonus boxes/lines on INTRO courses so people can TRY OUT their distance skills without all the pressure of running an Elite course. Everyone has to start somewhere....

We would not ever mark bonus areas on the courses, each handler selects the distance that they are currently working on for success for them and their dog.  That is the beauty of using Intro for bonus work.  The handler isn't confined to a selected area, they push themselves as they need to, which can change every week!

Sharon
Title: Re: Intro to Agility
Post by: LeeAnne McAdam on February 04, 2015, 07:51:17 PM
We can't wait to give it a go!!!
Title: Re: Intro to Agility
Post by: Jan Adams Lukenbill on February 05, 2015, 10:28:28 AM
I love the Intro class.  Me and my Chihuahua were struggling last year when I starting in this sport.  I had decided to just "enjoy" the sport, do our best and not expect to excel to the point winning.  After all I was only in this to help a rescue dog build self esteem and give me some quality time with her.  Those little legs can only go so far, so fast, until she ran out of gas.  When a dog with only 3" legs tries to run up a normal size A-frame, a normal size dog walk, a million tunnels and runs the same distance as a Novice border collie, and runs these courses numerous times at a trial, she just might not excel. lol  The Intro courses have given my dog a fair chance and she loves being a rock star!   

She and I are in the Intro class until we get kicked out! 
Title: Re: Intro to Agility
Post by: Team Twodog on February 09, 2015, 05:03:38 PM
Since Intro is only offered at some trials, would it be possible to whether Intro will be offered as part of the trial information on the NADAC trial calendar? Thanks.

Kim

Title: Re: Intro to Agility
Post by: Kyle on March 10, 2015, 08:53:12 AM
OK, I admit it, I didn't quite get the point of Intro when it first came out. I used to just take the puppies to trials for socialization and hangin' out, but then I saw the courses for Intro. They all just seemed to be big horseshoe shapes or a big looping "S" shape. When my new pup seemed about ready for something like that I entered her a couple of weeks ago and we had a ball! I will say the Tunnelers course we had was above and beyond our capabilities but I wasn't worried about that.... So I entered her in another trial this last weekend (did not enter Tunnelers or Jumpers)...and the courses were *much* harder. The "tests" on the various courses included going through 2 boxes on one course...multiple crosses...and a very distracting tunnel which would have been an off course. I was bummed because we are just at the point of getting our path work fairly well and working on holding contacts when excited, etc., and all I wanted was those big loops... I admit that we did design our own shorter, easier course once just so we could be successful and not over our heads. My apologies to our judge!

Maybe I just need a better description of what Intro is supposed to be about? Or what NADAC expects of an Intro dog vs. a Novice dog? 

Many thanks,
Kyle
Title: Re: Intro to Agility
Post by: Sharon Nelson on March 10, 2015, 09:17:12 AM
OK, I admit it, I didn't quite get the point of Intro when it first came out. I used to just take the puppies to trials for socialization and hangin' out, but then I saw the courses for Intro. They all just seemed to be big horseshoe shapes or a big looping "S" shape. When my new pup seemed about ready for something like that I entered her a couple of weeks ago and we had a ball! I will say the Tunnelers course we had was above and beyond our capabilities but I wasn't worried about that.... So I entered her in another trial this last weekend (did not enter Tunnelers or Jumpers)...and the courses were *much* harder. The "tests" on the various courses included going through 2 boxes on one course...multiple crosses...and a very distracting tunnel which would have been an off course. I was bummed because we are just at the point of getting our path work fairly well and working on holding contacts when excited, etc., and all I wanted was those big loops... I admit that we did design our own shorter, easier course once just so we could be successful and not over our heads. My apologies to our judge!

Maybe I just need a better description of what Intro is supposed to be about? Or what NADAC expects of an Intro dog vs. a Novice dog? 

Many thanks,
Kyle

Kyle, just like any other level, some courses will be easier and some will be tougher....... it always just depends on what course set you get. 

Most courses are in the middle, but there will be some that people feel are too tough and others that are too easy.  Just the luck of the draw.  Intro is shorter and easier than Novice, but the dog still have to display agility skills to earn a qualifying score and not always a loop.  I love Intro and yes, sometimes it is too much for my dog (although sometimes a loop causes too much speed and that is an issue too sometimes!).


Sharon
Title: Re: Intro to Agility
Post by: BetsieCorwin on March 10, 2015, 12:10:10 PM
Intro is great from old dogs too.  My 2 senior dogs were retired from agility 2 years ago.  Snickers was still capable but seemed stressed and wasn't enjoying the sport. We have been doing another dog sports and he loves it. But he loves to go for car rides and do things with me. I always feel a little guilty when I head out with Dazzle, and  I leave him home.  At a recent NADAC trial we entered Intro Jumpers and he had a blast!  No time for him to worry about what scary things were lurking outside the arena, and a short enough course that I could run close along side without my getting a heart attack.  He was bouncing up and down like a pogo stick after we crossed the finish line like he did years ago when he first started out.  Fun for me to see him having fun again.  So Intro is a great option for senior dogs who still might like to play the game but might not have the desire or stamina for a longer more complicated course. 

Betsie Corwin
Oakdale, CA
Title: Re: Intro to Agility
Post by: RobertStewart on May 07, 2015, 05:15:50 AM
I also LOVE Intro!!!! Several of my agility students, who are more than ready for competition, but who are hesitant to start trialling, as many of us were when we first started, have done intro in VT format at our training facility successfully. This is exactly what encouraged several to go to their very first trial. I have been using VT - Intro as a recruitment method for NADAC. 
Another thing I LOVE about Intro, my old dog Ellie, can no long adequately see well enough to run in an indoor arena due to age related vision decline.  She can however see well enough outdoors for VT, esp if the sun isn't too bright. She has loved this game for a very long time, and it keeps her fit and  still keeps her working. She doesn't usually have the concentration to complete an entire course, except on rare occasion now.
My youngest dog, is not a big fan of tunnels, but the Intro times just make her happy, jumpers she's fine with, Tunnellers.....not so much. She's an odd combo of fierce warrior and afraid of her shadow. Hoping Intro courses and VT's will get her over a lot of her "Sheltie princess" issues.
Title: Re: Intro to Agility
Post by: Maureen deHaan on May 16, 2015, 03:14:28 PM
I would like to once again thank NADAC (Sharon et al.) for Intro level - Zoe is learning so much about ring manners and teamwork this way without being too overwhelmed - So far she is having a great spring with lots of positive stuff going on- leashing up nicely, working as my buddy (aka teammate) doing her contacts and following the path - very proud of her and thankful for Intro - Novice would have been too much for both of us right out of the gate!  8)

Title: Re: Intro to Agility
Post by: Heidi Konesko on May 18, 2015, 04:13:07 AM
Is it still ok to enter novice and make up your own easier version of the course just to get in the ring and get some experience?  I'm thinking of when Intro is not offered, because Intro would be the obvious thing to do in that case.
-Heidi in NH
Title: Re: Intro to Agility
Post by: Sharon Nelson on May 18, 2015, 07:33:13 PM
I would like to once again thank NADAC (Sharon et al.) for Intro level - Zoe is learning so much about ring manners and teamwork this way without being too overwhelmed - So far she is having a great spring with lots of positive stuff going on- leashing up nicely, working as my buddy (aka teammate) doing her contacts and following the path - very proud of her and thankful for Intro - Novice would have been too much for both of us right out of the gate!  8)

Awesome!! 

Sharon
Title: Re: Intro to Agility
Post by: Butch jersey on October 31, 2015, 06:06:13 AM
I am new to agility and have started competing with a collie who was very timid and afraid of loud noises. We started training with the hope she would come out of her shell. She did well with her training and we decided to enter her in a NADAC trial at the Intro level due to less obstacles and shorter courses. We signed her up and several weeks before the trial she shut down on me and would not even go into the rink. We started a retraining program with her and was going to pull her out of the trial. We went to the trial anyway since my wife had signed up to work the trial. Ziva showed a great interest in what was going on and wanted to enter the ring. We figured we would try the first event and see how she did. This was the jumpers class. When it was her time we walked out in the ring and she acted as if she owned the ring. I was playing it safe and concerned since it was our first trial ever. She ran the course clean and missed he first Q by less than a second. We ran a total of three events that day and ran clean on two of them. Since then we have run two more trials and am proud to say Ziva has earned a total of 8 Q's and will be working on her Title in the next trial we do. If it were not for the intro class we may never have competed with Ziva. Its a great class to enter competition at and we are hoping to continue with advancing in Nadac.
Title: Re: Intro to Agility
Post by: LeeAnne McAdam on October 31, 2015, 07:55:19 AM
Congratulations to you and Ziva!  We love Intro, too.  Good luck and enjoy your journey!
Title: Re: Intro to Agility
Post by: Gary Visintainer on October 31, 2015, 08:02:22 AM
Way to go Butch and Ziva.
Title: Re: Intro to Agility
Post by: Joyce Roessner on November 01, 2015, 09:02:18 PM
Awesome story Butch, congrats to you & Ziva!  Good luck with your future agility endeavors. 
Title: Re: Intro to Agility
Post by: dogwoman on November 09, 2015, 01:40:58 PM
That is great Butch congrats.  I started my little one in intro and love it.  As soon as my 2 new BC pups are of age we will start at intro too.  I love the format and the courses are short.   :)