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2017 Championships => General Championships Discussion => Topic started by: Deni on June 08, 2017, 12:15:08 AM

Title: Another Team Question
Post by: Deni on June 08, 2017, 12:15:08 AM
Will there be "draws" done again this year to match up entrants who don't have other team members identified? Didnt see that option on the Team entry form, so just confirming before I hit submit.  Riot (Silver Stakes Vet) and Juno (Pre-Elite Standard) will both be in need of teammates. 

Thanks, Denise
Title: Re: Another Team Question
Post by: Chris Nelson on June 08, 2017, 09:42:01 AM
Ahh I do need to get that added!

Thanks Denise!
Title: Re: Another Team Question
Post by: knittingdog on June 10, 2017, 06:45:14 AM

Just sent you a FB message Denise regarding preElite team.

Robin & Surge
Title: Re: Another Team Question
Post by: Vicki Storrs on June 10, 2017, 08:11:21 AM
Vicki and Dega will be looking for teammates in Vet Pre Elite.  Dega is a Portuguese Water Dog, Vicki is a fat old lady with oxygen issues so super competitive people should pass us by.  We're there for the fun!
Vicki
Title: Re: Another Team Question
Post by: Rosemary on June 14, 2017, 07:04:38 AM
I am entering champs for the first time.  Are we supposed to be a part of a team or is that a separate thing?  What would be the advantage of being in a team?
Title: Re: Another Team Question
Post by: Linda W. Anderson on June 14, 2017, 08:56:31 AM
I am entering champs for the first time.  Are we supposed to be a part of a team or is that a separate thing?  What would be the advantage of being in a team?
Team is totally optional.  Being on a team might help you connect with new people.  I don't see any down side other than spending more money.
Linda
Title: Re: Another Team Question
Post by: kbriefel on June 14, 2017, 05:41:35 PM
Do all dogs on a team have to jump same height?
Ken Briefel, Maya and Max
Title: Re: Another Team Question
Post by: KarissaKS on June 14, 2017, 07:45:09 PM
Do all dogs on a team have to jump same height?

No, the only requirement for team is that all dogs be in the same division. The divisions are:

Regular
Veteran
Double-digit
Pre-Elite
Title: Re: Another Team Question
Post by: Rosemary on June 15, 2017, 05:20:41 AM
How many are in a team?  My husband and I are entering three dogs this year. Could we make our own team? 
Title: Re: Another Team Question
Post by: Vicki Storrs on June 15, 2017, 05:39:08 AM
Do all dogs on a team have to jump same height?

No, the only requirement for team is that all dogs be in the same division. The divisions are:

Regular
Veteran
Double-digit
Pre-Elite

Not exactly, I don't think, since Regular Champs and Pre Elite both offer Veterans.

So would it be...?

Regular Champs
Regular Veteran Champs
Pre Elite
Pre Elite Veterans
Double Digit

Plus the stakes groups...

Does that sound right?

Vicki
Title: Re: Another Team Question
Post by: KarissaKS on June 15, 2017, 12:29:15 PM
There may or may not be a Veteran division in Pre-Elite.

From the premium under qualifications for Pre-Elite:

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If a dog is  over  7  on  August  1,  2017,  then  they  MUST  enter  the  Veterans  division.    If  a dog  is  over  10  on  the  first  day  of  the  Championships,  then  they  will  be  entered  into  the Double Digit division. Veterans may or may not be split into a different division in Pre-Elite,  depending  upon  entry  numbers.    If  not  split,  then  all  dogs  jumping  at  the  same height will be scored together.

I can't speak for last year, but I'm pretty sure there was no Veteran Pre-Elite split in 2015. We had a 4/8 group, a 12" group, and a 16/20 group.
Title: Re: Another Team Question
Post by: Vicki Storrs on June 15, 2017, 12:49:27 PM
There may or may not be a Veteran division in Pre-Elite.

From the premium under qualifications for Pre-Elite:

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If a dog is  over  7  on  August  1,  2017,  then  they  MUST  enter  the  Veterans  division.    If  a dog  is  over  10  on  the  first  day  of  the  Championships,  then  they  will  be  entered  into  the Double Digit division. Veterans may or may not be split into a different division in Pre-Elite,  depending  upon  entry  numbers.    If  not  split,  then  all  dogs  jumping  at  the  same height will be scored together.

I can't speak for last year, but I'm pretty sure there was no Veteran Pre-Elite split in 2015. We had a 4/8 group, a 12" group, and a 16/20
Vicki
Title: Re: Another Team Question
Post by: Vicki Storrs on June 15, 2017, 01:13:04 PM
I withdrew my earlier post, I thought I was in a vet division in Pre elite in Springfield in 2015, but thinking back I'm not so sure.
So that means, how do I find a team mate, if there may or may not be a pre elite vet group?  Maybe we just find pre elite teammates...But if it doesn't matter there, why does it matter in the regular Champs?  (Matter as far as for teams, not for having the division/separation in the first place). Seems like in both cases the dogs are running the same course.  Pre elite dogs run the same course whether vet or not.  Regular Champs dogs run the same course whether vet or not.  Double Digit dogs run the pre elite courses as I recall....  I would think that it would be the course/starting point total that would define who could be on a team...  Except by breaking out the vets for teams we have more "winners" (nothing wrong with that) and you have vets competing against vets...but then Not in pre elite...
Oh well, obviously, I'm just TOTALLY confused, but I'm just old and senile anyway!!!  :-)
Vicki
Title: Re: Another Team Question
Post by: Chris Nelson on June 15, 2017, 01:35:18 PM
We typically have not had enough entries in Pre-Elite to warrant splitting up the teams into Vet and standard.   So last year for instance we just had Pre-Elite team that covered everything.
To be exact last year for teams we had:
Standard
Veteran
Double Digit
Pre-Elite

As for who can be on which team.   Just needs to be the same division.

So Double digit > double digit
Veteran > Veteran
Standard > Standard
Pre-Elite > Pre-Elite

It would be a little odd to have two dogs as Standards, with one dog being a Veteran and you enter as a Veteran team.   Kind of throwing a couple ringers in there :)
Title: Re: Another Team Question
Post by: DebbieP on July 31, 2017, 01:24:37 PM
Just to be sure I'm checking the right box on the Team form :)   -

My dog will be running as a vet.  I'm NOT a veteran handler.  The only non-stakes boxes I see on the Team form are:

Standard
Vet/Junior Handler
Pre-Elite
Double-Digit

Does the Vet/Junior Handler include vet dogs?  Thank you!
---Debbie P with Dylan
Title: Re: Another Team Question
Post by: Chris Nelson on July 31, 2017, 08:14:11 PM
Just to be sure I'm checking the right box on the Team form :)   -

My dog will be running as a vet.  I'm NOT a veteran handler.  The only non-stakes boxes I see on the Team form are:

Standard
Vet/Junior Handler
Pre-Elite
Double-Digit

Does the Vet/Junior Handler include vet dogs?  Thank you!
---Debbie P with Dylan

Hey Debbie,
Yup you're correct!

I would love to split it up more, but in past years there just wasn't enough entries to do so.

If there are enough entries to split those groups up a bit then we'll email folks to let them know and see where they want to be :)
Title: Re: Another Team Question
Post by: Vicki Storrs on August 02, 2017, 10:00:35 PM
Dega and I would love to be on a team,but we're in Pre elite, vet.  So does that mean he is eligible to run with ANY other pre elite team?  Or just with pre elite vets?
Vicki
Title: Re: Another Team Question
Post by: Chris Nelson on August 03, 2017, 11:44:11 AM
Dega and I would love to be on a team,but we're in Pre elite, vet.  So does that mean he is eligible to run with ANY other pre elite team?  Or just with pre elite vets?
Vicki

Pre-Elite doesn't get any special groupings for Veteran or similar.   So you can run with any Pre-Elite team :)
Title: Re: Another Team Question
Post by: Linda W. Anderson on August 03, 2017, 12:12:12 PM
I'm a little confused (no surprise there) about entering a team.  Do each member of the team fill out the entry form and lkist the other 2 members, then pay $30?  Or is it up to one person to do the entry and the other 2 pay them back?  Finally, can the "team" enter without a name and then let you know their name later?
Linda
Title: Re: Another Team Question
Post by: Chris Nelson on August 03, 2017, 04:21:02 PM
I'm a little confused (no surprise there) about entering a team.  Do each member of the team fill out the entry form and lkist the other 2 members, then pay $30?  Or is it up to one person to do the entry and the other 2 pay them back?  Finally, can the "team" enter without a name and then let you know their name later?
Linda

Whichever is easier for everyone!
One person can pay for the entire team. 
Or each person can pay separately.  It's all the same to me :)

You can definitely sign up without a team name, just mention it in the spot where team name would normally go
Title: Re: Another Team Question
Post by: DebbieP on August 04, 2017, 06:48:08 AM
Now I"m confused! Is it $30 each team member?  Or $30 for the entire team?

Thanks!

---Debbie Potter with Dylan and Java JOe
Title: Re: Another Team Question
Post by: Marcy Matties on August 04, 2017, 07:43:58 AM
Now I"m confused! Is it $30 each team member?  Or $30 for the entire team?

Thanks!

---Debbie Potter with Dylan and Java JOe

$30 each
Title: Re: Another Team Question
Post by: Rosemary on August 04, 2017, 10:07:37 AM
I am about to enter for my team, however two of the dogs run proficient and one runs skilled.  Is this ok?  For the acutal jump height should I put the height they measure to or the height they jump (skilled being 4" lower)?
Title: Re: Another Team Question
Post by: Chris Nelson on August 04, 2017, 10:36:24 AM
Proficient and Skilled won't change anything, so you're good there :)

You can put down the height they jump.    We calculate it ourselves as well, but it's a nice check stop to make sure you're on the same page as us for what they should be jumping