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Title: Historical Question
Post by: Janice_Shavor on October 28, 2017, 01:32:21 PM
When did NADAC go to slat-less contacts?

Just curious.
Title: Re: Historical Question
Post by: Chris Nelson on October 28, 2017, 07:19:40 PM
Inception :)

Sharon or Becky can correct me if Iím wrong,  but slats on contacts was one of the many reasons nadac was formed.   Because the other venues wouldnít remove them


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Title: Re: Historical Question
Post by: Janice_Shavor on October 29, 2017, 08:10:02 AM
We, the North Alabama Canine Cruisers, started hosting NADAC trials in 2006 (?).  At that time we could still use contacts legal in other venues (they had slats).
Title: Re: Historical Question
Post by: Chris Nelson on October 29, 2017, 09:55:54 AM
Hey Janice,

Iíll have to ask Sharon.   That really doesnít compute with my memory


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Title: Re: Historical Question
Post by: Lin Battaglia on October 29, 2017, 10:03:17 AM
I don't ever remember slats at Cataldo. So maybe inception ? 
Title: Re: Historical Question
Post by: Richard Wolfe on October 29, 2017, 11:55:12 AM
I started NADAC in 2002.  Definitely no slats allowed then.
Title: Re: Historical Question
Post by: dogrsqr on October 29, 2017, 03:36:24 PM
Slats were allowed early on, but I can't remember when they went away.  I started in 1996.

Gina
Title: Re: Historical Question
Post by: Lois Mierau on October 29, 2017, 03:59:16 PM
There were slats and then we went to no slats and just painted/sand and then we went to rubber but I don't remember what year.

Lois Mierau
Sondog Agility
Title: Re: Historical Question
Post by: Chris Nelson on October 29, 2017, 04:14:57 PM
According to Sharon she is pretty sure we stopped allowing slats in 1996


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Title: Re: Historical Question
Post by: Billie Rosen on October 30, 2017, 12:54:37 PM
Sharon was against slats from the inception of NADAC, and I think there were no slats on the dog walk from early on.  But with the A-frame, there was a period of time where we had 3 slats near the top which supposedly helped small dogs who couldn't get all the way up the A-frame without them.  Then those were removed when NADAC went to the rubberized contacts, I believe.
Title: Re: Historical Question
Post by: Roger Coor on October 30, 2017, 03:29:08 PM
  The slats were gone years before the rubberized surface. From what I remember with a conversation with Sharon, she said originally they put a few slats on contacts and other venues followed, then she realized that if the surface was slippery enough that dogs needed slats going up, dogs jammed toes coming down, so they were removed.  The other venues kept the slats. You may notice that the other venue slats have diminished in size to the point that they are just token now.  The slatless contacts were in place when I started NADAC in 1997/1998, but the surface was still paint and sand.  So I am thinking it was either at inception or soon there after.  The rubberized surface came in somewhere around 2005.
Title: Re: Historical Question
Post by: Mark Gwillim on October 30, 2017, 04:56:24 PM
I was going to say the mid 90s, not sure of the the year. Just going by memories of what dog I was runing
Title: Re: Historical Question
Post by: Sharon Nelson on October 30, 2017, 10:09:35 PM
Sharon was against slats from the inception of NADAC, and I think there were no slats on the dog walk from early on.  But with the A-frame, there was a period of time where we had 3 slats near the top which supposedly helped small dogs who couldn't get all the way up the A-frame without them.  Then those were removed when NADAC went to the rubberized contacts, I believe.

You are exactly correct, Billie!  No slats on teeter or dog walk, 3 slats on the top of the a-frame to begin with.

Sharon
Title: Re: Historical Question
Post by: Maureen deHaan on November 01, 2017, 02:42:10 AM
I have been competing in NADAC since 1998 and I clearly remember and have photos of my dogs on equipment at trials that had slats well into the early 2000
Title: Re: Historical Question
Post by: dogrsqr on November 01, 2017, 08:22:52 AM
I found this Clean Run article which stated which states that by August 1 2004 they would require the A-frame to be slatless.  I do think there was a period, as usual, where slatless equipment was preferred but not required, and I think the dogwalk was first and A-frame last?  I remember when we came back from trialing other places people would ask me if they had a slatless A-frame and I would typically say "I don't know, I didn't really notice".

https://www.cleanrun.com/index.cfm/feature/213/history-of-agility-part-3.htm

Gina
Title: Re: Historical Question
Post by: dogrsqr on November 01, 2017, 08:44:27 AM
Also I think many clubs had slatless fairly quickly.  It wasn't an issue unless you used equipment to hold other organization trials. 

Gina
Title: Re: Historical Question
Post by: Steve Stochaj on November 01, 2017, 03:43:48 PM
Here is what they looked like in 1998.
Title: Re: Historical Question
Post by: Janice_Shavor on November 02, 2017, 06:54:32 AM
Thanks.  Our club started holding trials for another venue.  When clubs in the Southeast began holding NADAC trials, we became interested.  I mostly remember thinking at each NADAC trial, "What a fun course to run!"  I know when Canine Cruisers began to hold NADAC trials, we had a judge comment that we could extend the contact zone on the dog walk to help out our exhibitors.  And when we HAD to go slates, I was hooked on NADAC and purchased dog walk and a-frame to comply with the rule change.  Just couldn't remember which year.
Title: Re: Historical Question
Post by: agilityjunkie on November 14, 2017, 02:28:18 PM
The answers are all in the old Yahoo Group. We made a video for Sharon using a slatted and non-slatted aframe in the facility that we moved into in 2000 to demonstrate how dogs avoided the slats when they were running down the aframe. Slats were definitely allowed in the 90's, I have a picture of the aframe behind me from a trial in 1996 or 97. There was a table, a chute, a tire and a teeter in the ring, too, I still have the VHS videos.