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General => General Discussion => Topic started by: Chris Nelson on April 08, 2012, 11:09:59 PM
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All the info currently available.
More will be added as it becomes available.
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Hi Chris. Do you know of any beginning agility tests in calif or OR or WA?? Thx
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What i meant was this summer besides the one in Port Gamble WA. If anyone knows of any s let me know. Jill, Gunner aNd Jed
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We will be doing many of them in Bend, OR and several more in Canby, OR.
Sharon
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Thank you. I would love to know when. We need all the help we can muster...Jef and Jill
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We are trying to get ourselves organized to do one or two this summer in Mammoth Lakes, CA (in the Eastern Sierra)!
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I'd love to see any Beginner's Agility in northern California or northern Nevada. More EGC too. Perhaps we need ambassadors in different areas to spread it around. As with the forum, there's resistance to change!
And as I was composing this, I see there is some being planned for Mammoth Lakes. Hoorah!
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Sheila, we will also have EGC at our August trial in Mammoth ... :)
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Sheila, we will also have EGC at our August trial in Mammoth ... :)
I'll have to check that out!
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We have been holding a Beginner Agility Trial once per month for the last two months at Agility Junkies. They have become wildly popular with no less than 15 to 18 dogs participating. That number may jump since we began to give out Title Plaques as an award. This is an awesome way to introduce newbies to the fun of competition. We gave away 7 plaques at our second Beginner Trial and many jumped in with both feet to try the BA-2. Come join us in Illinois!
Lora
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We are planning to have a BA-1 trial (2 rounds) in Mammoth Lakes, CA on July 21st ... we should have the premium on our web site shortly and I'll post here and in the Trials section when it's available!
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I am thinking of offering a BA trial this summer in NY... I have a couple of questions:
1) Dogs can only "compete" in one level (ie BA-1) until they get 3 Q's , then they move up?
2) If I am the only evaluator I can only evaluate one level at a given trial...correct?
thanks for any help you can give...
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I'm unclear what a Beginner's Agility test is. Is it a trial with only Novice classes???
Can anyone enter, even with a dog that has been trialing for awhile?
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I am thinking of offering a BA trial this summer in NY... I have a couple of questions:
1) Dogs can only "compete" in one level (ie BA-1) until they get 3 Q's , then they move up?
2) If I am the only evaluator I can only evaluate one level at a given trial...correct?
thanks for any help you can give...
1. correct, they must earn a minimum of 30 points in BA-1 before entering BA-2
2. You could be the evaluator for both BA-1 and BA-2 at the same test.
Sharon
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I'm unclear what a Beginner's Agility test is. Is it a trial with only Novice classes???
Can anyone enter, even with a dog that has been trialing for awhile?
The BA program is a "Pre-Novice" set of tests........ although with that said, many Elite dogs can't pass the tests! The first test is a stay at the start............ some Elite dogs do fail that test immediately!
Sharon
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Thanks Sharon -
Next Question - How many "rounds" of BA-1 can be offered at one test?
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Thanks Sharon -
Next Question - How many "rounds" of BA-1 can be offered at one test?
A maximum of two rounds!!
Sharon
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Eastern Sierra Agility Group is offering two rounds of BA-1 on July 21st ... The premium and entry can be found on our web site: www.easternsierraagility.com (http://www.easternsierraagility.com). Just click on "BA-1 trial" on the home page. Come try out Beginner Agility with us the the beautiful Eastern Sierra, right by Mammoth Lakes, CA ... And let me know if you have any questions! BTW, our premium for our regular annual trial is available on our site, too.
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Are "practice"- style gates acceptable for BA tests, or do we need EGC-style lattice gates to offer a test?
How much advance notice does the office require for a BA test? I know months are required for agility trials, but I wasn't sure about BA.
Thanks in advance!
Murrelet
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Eastern Sierra Agility Group will be offering Beginner Agility at our upcoming ESAG trial! There will be 2 rounds each of levels 1 & 2. The premium and entry form are now on our web site: http://www.easternsierraagility.com/. (http://www.easternsierraagility.com/.) You can mail the form to me, bring it with you to the trial, or fill one out on-site ... just let me (Lynne Almeida) know if you have any questions! The Beginner Agility classes will be on Friday, 8/17, and will run concurrently with the Extreme Games classes ... we hope you can join us!
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I have entered my first beginner agility test. I read the handbook and it talks about the distraction test where you walk by a dog in a pen and your dog cannot react or pull on the leash. Are you allowed to use a gentle leader? I gentle leader is allowed in a std trial but was not sure if allowed for beginner agility testing.
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Where is the info for BA 3. I went to the NADAC site and I can only find the info for level 1 and level 2?
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Where is the info for BA 3. I went to the NADAC site and I can only find the info for level 1 and level 2?
Yep, I have Level 3 finished. I sent it to the Arizona folks for review and I will post it today.
Thanks for all the help everyone in completing the rules for Level 3 requirements.
Sharon
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Can't wait to see BA-3 we have a bunch of folks ready and waiting for the next challenge!
Lora Del Page
Agility Junkies, Inc.
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Palomar Agility Club is having BA-1 and BA-2 at our trial Feb 16-17 in Ramona, CA near San Diego. We did it last year and it was very successful.
Anne
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Jumping Chollas Agility Club in Phoenix is offering all 3 levels of Beginner Agility at our test next Monday night. We are offering 6 runs of EGC each evening for next Wednesday and Thursday (Feb. 6 & 7), and then a 3 day NADAC Handling seminar on Friday thru Sunday (Feb. 8-10). Definitely a great NADAC week here in Phoenix.
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Can't wait to see Level 3.
Thanks Sharon.
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That sounds like a lot of fun in Arizona!
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Can't wait to see Level 3.
Thanks Sharon.
I uploaded the Guidelines with Level 3 included into the Media Section of this forum, under Rules.
Sharon
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Sharon:
The rules say that the leash may be put on the dog between exercises. To me, this reads as if you do NOT have to have the leash on the dog between exercises if your dog is under control.
However, I was told by a tester at at BA test that I must put the leash on my dog between exercises, although my dog was under voice control and was willingly following me, at my command, between the stations.
Which is correct?
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Sharon:
The rules say that the leash may be put on the dog between exercises. To me, this reads as if you do NOT have to have the leash on the dog between exercises if your dog is under control.
However, I was told by a tester at at BA test that I must put the leash on my dog between exercises, although my dog was under voice control and was willingly following me, at my command, between the stations.
Which is correct?
No, you do not "have" to put your leash on. You "may" put your leash on if you choose. It might be that a tester would ask you to put your leash on if they felt that the dog was not as controlled as they want.... but if your dog is under control you should be able to walk between exercises without a leash.
Sharon
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Thanks. The tester agreed the dog was under my control, but said that the rules required that the leash be put on the dog between stations.
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Thanks. The tester agreed the dog was under my control, but said that the rules required that the leash be put on the dog between stations.
Maybe they are reading this and will realize that there is a choice. I am sure it was just a misunderstanding.
Sharon
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I think it was too.
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I'm looking for the postings about using a barrel in the BA Test?
I heard that you could use a barrel instead of the a-frame?
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I'm looking for the postings about using a barrel in the BA Test?
I heard that you could use a barrel instead of the a-frame?
Yes, we do allow a barrel exercise in place of the a-frame test for clubs that don't have an a-frame available. It is attached to this post and I will add it to the Media section.
Sharon
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Thanks for the info.
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Very excited about the release of the BA-3! I do have a question. In the aframe tunnel test can the four second stop be in the yellow on the aframe? Or, does the dog need to be released from the aframe and show restraint on the ground before entering the tunnel?
Lora
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Very excited about the release of the BA-3! I do have a question. In the aframe tunnel test can the four second stop be in the yellow on the aframe? Or, does the dog need to be released from the aframe and show restraint on the ground before entering the tunnel?
Lora
They cannot flip from the a-frame to the tunnel.......... also it does not show a "discrimination" when the dog is already on the a-frame. The dog should leave the a-frame and the next part of the test is a discrimination showing that the dog will go into the tunnel when given both as choices.
Sharon
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Okay, I had to read it again. So, we would probably want to mark a pause area out for exhibitors. I LOVE the honor exercise! I like this challenge better than heeling off leash.
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Okay, I had to read it again. So, we would probably want to mark a pause area out for exhibitors. I LOVE the honor exercise! I like this challenge better than heeling off leash.
Good idea with marking off a pause area!!
Sharon
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Would you clarify the use of collars in BA. The Guidelines talks about taking the leash off the dog, does this mean the dog my keep their collar on or does the rule of no collars carry over from regular NADAC agility to BA?
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Would you clarify the use of collars in BA. The Guidelines talks about taking the leash off the dog, does this mean the dog my keep their collar on or does the rule of no collars carry over from regular NADAC agility to BA?
Collars are not allowed in any NADAC class, including BA tests.
Sharon
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The application for a BA Test states minimum of 8 gates are needed for Level 3, but I count 6 when looking at the test setup (course layout). What am I missing? ???
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Will there be any BA Test's in Missouri in 2014?
Valli
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Are the states having BA tests listed some where, like the regular 'trial calendar'?, or do you have to request a test.
Thanks,
Valli
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Are results from BA submitted to NADAC and listed under a dog's points on the website?
Linda & Sawyer
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Yes, they are listed in the calendar section.
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Yes...points and titles are listed. Its great, everything in one place.
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Thank you Karen, I looked and no state any where up to two states away on each side of Missouri has one listed..a lot of trials are still TBA hopefully one of them will list one.
Thank again
Valli
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Suggest you let those clubs know there is an interest. Here in California we probably get oh... maybe 10 dogs that come over from the main ring. We challenge those with Novice, Open and Elite titles to try it.
We are doing more and more here in Southern CA as more clubs begin to offer it along with their regular trial.
I like to think of this as investing in our futureNADAC agility dogs. We have had first timers, training for other venues, come to try it and leave with very favorable impression of NADAC.
Good Luck.
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Suggest you let those clubs know there is an interest. Here in California we probably get oh... maybe 10 dogs that come over from the main ring. We challenge those with Novice, Open and Elite titles to try it.
We are doing more and more here in Southern CA as more clubs begin to offer it along with their regular trial.
I like to think of this as investing in our futureNADAC agility dogs. We have had first timers, training for other venues, come to try it and leave with very favorable impression of NADAC.
Good Luck.
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Karen, we need a like button on that one!!
Sharon
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Last weekend (2/19/14) the Palomar Club in CA offered BA on Saturday and held EGC Gaters as part of the regular trial in the main arena that same afternoon. Some of the BA folks made their debut in the main ring by entering the Gaters class. These handlers felt they were not ready to ask their dogs to do things like weaves and contracts in a full trial setting (my hat is off to them not wanting to push their dogs too fast). Novice Gaters seemed a logical first step from BA....their dogs had shown success in working the gate and tunnel exercises at the BA Level II or higher. I am happy to report the dogs and handlers did a fabulous job and they are looking forward to finishing their BA titles and pursuing NADAC.
I really enjoy working with the BA program. I love seeing these young dogs and new handlers progress. I also like the way it nicely flows into Novice EGC.
I would like to suggest to groups offering BA on one day at their trial, to consider offering one class that the "advanced" BA folks could try, such as Gaters or Barrelers. Two rounds of BA and a round (or two) of Barrelers or Gaters seemed to work well for a number of the upper level BA folks.
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I really enjoy working with the BA program. I love seeing these young dogs and new handlers progress. I also like the way it nicely flows into Novice EGC.
We APPRECIATE and THANK YOU, Karen (and all of the volunteer testers), for your selfless dedication to BA! Your belief in, and promotion of, the program has helped it grow in So.Cal. We owe you so much for helping "baby" dogs and handlers gain self confidence in the BA program.
My little Papillon girl Tesla earned her first Qs at the Palomar trial in BA-1, and my scaredy boy Hutch earned his first BA-3 Q... without BA, neither would have had a chance to play agility with mom that day. BA ROCKS!
-dayle
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Here in remote North Dakota we have no close trials (under 300 miles) and a real problem with air service so I have held 12 BA trials over the past year and they have been fun, we have learned a bunch, well attended. Since getting a judge is a major expense and effort, I really appreciate NADAC allowing us old "seasoned" handlers to act as judges and give a "trial" experience to our teams. And yes, they do flow right into the EGC program. Please keep these available!
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Here in remote North Dakota we have no close trials (under 300 miles) and a real problem with air service so I have held 12 BA trials over the past year and they have been fun, we have learned a bunch, well attended. Since getting a judge is a major expense and effort, I really appreciate NADAC allowing us old "seasoned" handlers to act as judges and give a "trial" experience to our teams. And yes, they do flow right into the EGC program. Please keep these available!
You are doing a great job in your area!!
Sharon
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Are the BA tests required before moving to Novice?
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No, but the BA levels provide an excellent path to Novice.
I have had BA folks say, upon completion of Level 3, that they want a Level 4....I tell them...there is, it is called Novice...lol.
All dogs, including Elite, can go for their BA titles.
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Big thumbs up to the host clubs that have found the time to get the numbies started in the fun of NADAC agility by offering the 'Beginners Test' in their trials, :) I have still had no luck finding a trial close to me that offers the BT, I have emailed and requested to a couple, but their trials are so full and run late on the trail day's that they just don't have the time to squeeze them into the trial schedule. :( Would so like to get my young girl started and get her some experience in a trial setting, but guess we'll just have to wait until she's 18 months.....
Valli and 'The Spoos'
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If you have two testers at a BA test, can each tester have their dogs evaluated by the other tester?
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If you have two testers at a BA test, can each tester have their dogs evaluated by the other tester?
Yes, in BA you certainly can!
Sharon
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Woo-hoo!! Thanks!
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Anyone who is interested in entering intro classes at a Nadac trial in Northern Calif. Checkout WAG in Elk Grove, Ca., Susan has been adding them to a few of the classes. There is two upcoming trials with Intro classes added 1 trial in June and another over the July 4th weekend.
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I would like to suggest that the next time the BA Guidebook is updated that it adds:
1. The Barrel exercises
2. A titling grid so exhibitors can see the titles they can earn including Outstanding and Superior. Many of these folks are new to both NADAC and agility so they are still learning how Qs lead to different titles.
Thanks for the program. I LOVE seeing the young dogs come out and spend time with their favorite human. I think Intro is make the perfect "Level IV" is you would.... Great transition between BA and Novice.
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If anyone plans to hold this in Minnesota I would be interested in testing.
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I really wish more clubs would offer the BA classes!!! It would so help the entire agility community if every dog had to pass the "Beginners" tests!!
Sharon
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Come to Yorba Linda, CA this Wednesday, June 29. Palomar Agility Club is hosting a BA Test. Then next is planned for August 31. :)
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I really wish more clubs would offer the BA classes!!! It would so help the entire agility community if every dog had to pass the "Beginners" tests!!
Sharon
I think there should be a special awards for teams that have passed all three levels of BA!! It would make agility trials a safer place to be!
Sharon
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Palomar has had one dog earn 140 points in BA-3 and another 100 points in BA-3. They tried Palomar's BA classes, earned a few titles and went off to another instructor so they could learn the "real" agility equipment. These students, like many others, came back stating that they were so far ahead of the other students as their dogs understood simple path work. The could send their dog to the jumps, tunnels, and other equipment something the other students could not. The institutor only taught equipment execution skills, not overall communication skills. They came back wanting more communication/path instruction. It was very satisfying to see students that opt to spend time doing basic ground work, before spending a lot of time on equipment orientated classes.
Thanks Sharon for the program.
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Palomar has had one dog earn 140 points in BA-3 and another 100 points in BA-3. They tried Palomar's BA classes, earned a few titles and went off to another instructor so they could learn the "real" agility equipment. These students, like many others, came back stating that they were so far ahead of the other students as their dogs understood simple path work. The could send their dog to the jumps, tunnels, and other equipment something the other students could not. The institutor only taught equipment execution skills, not overall communication skills. They came back wanting more communication/path instruction. It was very satisfying to see students that opt to spend time doing basic ground work, before spending a lot of time on equipment orientated classes.
Thanks Sharon for the program.
Awesome, Karen! You made my day!
Sharon
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Path markers in BA.
Palomar Agility Club offers BA Testing every two months in Yorba Linda, CA. Should we be putting hoops, whiskers, cones or some other type of marker on the barrels?
BA emphasizes path so I feel we should update this exercise. I would like to see hoops (2 or 3) on each barrel to help emphasis the path we would like to see the dog to perform. Too much for the BA level?
Attached is a sketch of what the three different Levels are expected to do. I drew the attachment several years ago and at the moment cannot remember how to get into it to move the numbers to where I think the hoops should be, but I think most Testers would know. I can do an update if NADAC wants to add the hoops or some other type of path marker.
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Path markers in BA.
Palomar Agility Club offers BA Testing every two months in Yorba Linda, CA. Should we be putting hoops, whiskers, cones or some other type of marker on the barrels?
BA emphasizes path so I feel we should update this exercise. I would like to see hoops (2 or 3) on each barrel to help emphasis the path we would like to see the dog to perform. Too much for the BA level?
Attached is a sketch of what the three different Levels are expected to do. I drew the attachment several years ago and at the moment cannot remember how to get into it to move the numbers to where I think the hoops should be, but I think most Testers would know. I can do an update if NADAC wants to add the hoops or some other type of path marker.
We agree Karen, great input!
Sharon
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Do clubs continue to offer Beginners Tests with the availability of intro courses at trials. Our club i considering offering tests on a fun match date.
Any suggestions would be appreciated.
Lynn
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Do clubs continue to offer Beginners Tests with the availability of intro courses at trials. Our club i considering offering tests on a fun match date.
Any suggestions would be appreciated.
Lynn
Yes, clubs still offer BA. Most offer BA as a class graduation test or offer them once a month as part of a fun match.
You can sure tell at a trial which dogs have passed BA tests........ just that bit of ring exposure sure helps!
Sharon