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General Discussion / Re: Increasing Participation in NADAC
« Last post by Chris Nelson on Today at 08:56:02 AM »
Never said we were changing anything :)




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General Discussion / Re: Increasing Participation in NADAC
« Last post by Cindy on Today at 08:42:34 AM »

NADAC has always been the venue that truly cares about the dogs' well being and has boldly been the front runner in standing behind that premise. By saying that people will still run their dogs in another venue so NADAC might as well allow it too, only compounds a known problem - people will run in both venues, not just one. In some areas (with more NADAC trials available), it may double the damage done to those very young dogs. NADAC will then be a part of the problem not a leader in the solution.

Stick to your guns. Keep the starting age where it is. Help keep our NADAC dogs running agility well into their "senior" years as we see at the trials.  :)

JMHO.

Kyle

I agree wholeheartedly with what Kyle said.  Just because other venues do, doesn't mean they should.  While there are variations in when individual dogs are ready, I appreciate NADAC having a line that considers the maximum safety for the dog.  Let the other venues do what they do, and let those of us who are NADAC only remain confident that the decisions at the top are being made with our dogs' safety as the number one guiding principle. 

JMHO   ;)
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General Discussion / Re: Increasing Participation in NADAC
« Last post by Kyle on Today at 06:54:39 AM »
I worry about people working their dogs too early as well.

The counter to that is that people will do it regardless,  they’ll just do it in another venue.

So maybe it would be beneficial to allow it in a environment that is less strenuous then the other options.

Intro classes only,  max heights etc etc


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NADAC has always been the venue that truly cares about the dogs' well being and has boldly been the front runner in standing behind that premise. By saying that people will still run their dogs in another venue so NADAC might as well allow it too, only compounds a known problem - people will run in both venues, not just one. In some areas (with more NADAC trials available), it may double the damage done to those very young dogs. NADAC will then be a part of the problem not a leader in the solution.

Stick to your guns. Keep the starting age where it is. Help keep our NADAC dogs running agility well into their "senior" years as we see at the trials.  :)

JMHO.

Kyle
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General Discussion / Re: Increasing Participation in NADAC
« Last post by Maureen deHaan on Today at 03:22:59 AM »
There is no need to rush our dogs into the ring. I have been participating in NADAC for 20 years and the age has always been 18 months to be in the ring - Please don't change it!

I love it for many reasons in addition to the growth thing. Brain maturity, behavior maturity , time to train your dog without putting it in the ring too early and having teamwork disasters , time for them to come to trials and learn ring side / trial / travel / crate  manners , time for them to learn to be dogs.

 I cringe at other venues who allow dogs in the ring at 12 or even 15 months - and cringe even more when people put/ rush their dogs in the ring when they are clearly not ready (dog and handler) but just bc they are old enough -
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2018 Championships / Re: Double Digit Group
« Last post by Lynne Almeida on April 20, 2018, 09:09:32 PM »
Cool, I'm really looking forward to the two-ring format!
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General Discussion / Re: Increasing Participation in NADAC
« Last post by mstomel on April 20, 2018, 08:15:53 PM »
or you could just take jumps out of intro all together. And then you wouldn't need pole setters and classes would run really fast... just throwing that out there.
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General Discussion / Re: Increasing Participation in NADAC
« Last post by Amy McGovern on April 20, 2018, 07:56:42 PM »
But they are closed in others much earlier (smaller dogs)....
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General Discussion / Re: Increasing Participation in NADAC
« Last post by Team Bailey on April 20, 2018, 07:10:50 PM »
The growth plates in a puppy aren't closed in a lot of breeds by 14 months.  If jumping, it could cause fractures and other complications in the puppy.  I think it would be better to keep it at the current age. 
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General Discussion / Re: Increasing Participation in NADAC
« Last post by Chris Nelson on April 20, 2018, 06:55:48 PM »
I worry about people working their dogs too early as well.

The counter to that is that people will do it regardless,  they’ll just do it in another venue.

So maybe it would be beneficial to allow it in a environment that is less strenuous then the other options.

Intro classes only,  max heights etc etc


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General Discussion / Re: Increasing Participation in NADAC
« Last post by Karen Birdsong on April 20, 2018, 06:46:25 PM »
Age in Intro - I need to think about this some more, but putting the suggestion here on the request on a person entering my clubs trial. 

Suggestion is to lower the entrance age of dogs in Intro.  Perhaps 16 or 14 months.

Personally I keep thinking about the lower the competitive entrance age, the younger and harder youngsters may be worked by their handlers. 

If the age was lowered, then I would suggest that the maximum jump height be 12" instead of 16" for any dog under 18 months.
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