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General Discussion / Re: Increasing Participation in NADAC
« Last post by Foomin Z on April 23, 2018, 11:30:14 AM »
How about not allowing people to use prong collars on their dogs in the ring? I saw one recently at a NADAC trial, and when I told my non-NADAC friends, they were pretty disgusted about it, thought it was unsafe for the dog's health. I thought NADAC was about safety for the dog, and many people mention that in this thread.
Trials / Re: Congrats to Clever Dog Academy!!!!
« Last post by Marcy Matties on April 23, 2018, 09:36:16 AM »
Ditto to all Sara said.  Was a very fun 3 day trial. Weather was awesome and matched by the friendly and encouraging exhibitors. 

And yes, there was a state you missed  ;D.  Deb (wish I could remember her last name) and her husband probably took the "longest distance traveled" award.  They came down from IOWA! 
General Discussion / Re: Increasing Participation in NADAC
« Last post by Rosemary on April 23, 2018, 08:45:14 AM »
I'll just throw this out there.  Allowing dogs to enter intro at 15 months could possibly get new people in.  People who are new to agility look forward to testing their team's skills.  CPE, UKI and AKC allow dogs to start at 15 months.  That's three months more that those venues have to hook these folks.  Often, once a team is on a title course they want to see it through.  If we would allow them to enter NADAC at 15 months then we have those extra 3 months to help them appreciate how to keep their teams safe and happy for the long haul.
General Discussion / Re: Increasing Participation in NADAC
« Last post by BeckyAH on April 23, 2018, 07:57:17 AM »
I am going to out myself as one of "Those" people, here.

I absolutely think it's important that dogs be safe on the equipment, stay in the ring, and work with their owners - this is my disclaimer.  Dogs leaving the ring and running wild on the trial grounds, dogs running wild period - bad stuff, scary stuff, do not want.   disclaimer part 2: I am a NADAC person, and exclusively so.  I won't let my dogs be a risk to themselves or other people, but:

I just want to run my dogs.

I am completely happy to throw an unprepared dog who knows just enough to stay with me and be safe into the ring, see where we are, and go back and do some more training.  I am completely happy to use management  (no pull harnesses, other commands or tricks) to keep my dogs close to me and never teach an extended loose leash walk.  I PLAY agility to PLAY with my dogs.  I like the Qs, I like succeeding, I like training challenges, but ultimately I am there to have a good time with my dogs and, yes, friends. 

Keeping the eye on dog safety is good,  and much of the training is safety related.   I think that's important to hold onto, of course, but I think maybe... not getting too pushy about the philosophy of taking it slow and only entering a dog who is entirely ready is probably a good idea, too.  (And I am thankful that intro and a multitude of classes with and without various obstacles exists for that reason - much easier to get a person to a trial if you tell them there are options without distance, without jumps, without contacts, without weaves, whatever.  And often, at least around here, if we can get them TO the trial and feeling good, we do usually keep them.)
Trials / Congrats to Clever Dog Academy!!!!
« Last post by Sara Langston on April 23, 2018, 07:27:08 AM »
Congratulations to Clever Dog Academy on hosting a great trial this past weekend in Vancleave, Mississippi!!!!  It was so much fun for exhibitors and dogs.  There were lots of people there from all around -- Mississippi, Louisiana, Texas, Alabama, Florida.  There could have been others, but these are the states I know were represented.   Mark Buehl laid down some really challenging courses with lots of areas that tested the handlers' skills.  I think all of us came away with an exercise or two we can set up and practice.  I love it when courses push you to get better and better at handling and Mark's courses presented many such opportunities.

The covered dish lunches were delicious and gave us a chance to try some new and different foods.  All the food was great!!!  Thank you so much to Cindy Hosler, Mark and Kelli Whitfield, Sandy Lancaster and all the others who helped make this such a great trial.  We are already looking forward to the next one. 

Sara Langston     
General Discussion / Re: Pending points
« Last post by Chris Nelson on April 23, 2018, 07:20:24 AM »
It really depends on how quickly clubs get their results sent in.

In a perfect world it would get updated weekly.

Currently we are waiting on results from two clubs.   Ideally we will get those today and have everything updated this week :)
General Discussion / Re: Increasing Participation in NADAC
« Last post by dogrsqr on April 23, 2018, 05:23:53 AM »
I find that around here most people new to agility tend to trial where their instructors and classmates trial.  We've had people start out in NADAC because of Intro and because they can do some training in the ring, but that doesn't mean they stay with NADAC. We also have ASCA and UKI where training in the ring is to a much larger extent.

We have a wide variety of training philosophies around here varying from taking it really slow, learning impulse control, and not even start teaching weaves until a dog is at least 14 months old to push and get them ready to trial by the time they're a year old. 

General Discussion / Re: Increasing Participation in NADAC
« Last post by Maureen deHaan on April 23, 2018, 02:40:35 AM »
Depends on where you are  - and who their trainers are  I guess
2017 General Championships Discussion / Re: Location for 2019
« Last post by Maureen deHaan on April 23, 2018, 02:39:07 AM »
Well that's unfortunate! Completely understand :)
General Discussion / Pending points
« Last post by mablives on April 22, 2018, 06:02:44 PM »
How long does it normally take for pending points to become permanent. I have been waiting two weeks for some.
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