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General Discussion / Re: Allowing BIS to compete at trials
« Last post by Lorrie Stelz on July 12, 2018, 06:59:01 PM »
I agree with what Chris stated--

 "If Iím keeping my girl intact for breeding then obviously breeding is a higher priority for me then competing,  and thatís my choice and choices have consequences.

You canít always get everything you want,  sometimes you have to deal with not getting all the candy in the jar"

 as well as Audri's statement.

My boys are both neutered, but my male Kaiden was intact for 2.5 years and his sister drove him nuts when he was returned to his breeder before he was rehomed to me.  Despite him being neutered, he lived part of his life intact before I got him and I don't think it would take him long before he would go nuts again if he was around a BIS.  My issue is that I am not around any BIS's to "TRAIN" it as everyone says is "our" responsibility.  To me, this is not much unlike an injury where you are unexpectedly forced to take time off... at least you know somewhat when it might occur.  Insert Chris' statement here. We all can't compete every week of the year.  It's just a few times of the year that you don't trial with your BIS as it currently sits.

Do we really expect ALL nadac competitors to have access to TRAIN proper behavior around BISs?  Not going to happen. And, like someone mentioning novice dogs.... that would be tough on new dogs and handlers adding another big distraction they may have not had availablity to "train" for.  I have many breeder friends who don't see issues with not trialing with their BIS... when their bitch is in season, they just don't trial and they don't ever complain. 

Nothing is black and white obviously.  Just stating my opinion from another angle.
2018 Championships / Re: Team at Champs
« Last post by Amy McGovern on July 12, 2018, 09:25:40 AM »
He said originally JH needed to be with JH but he also said that would be finalized after Aug 1. 

2018 Championships / Re: Team at Champs
« Last post by mstomel on July 12, 2018, 08:25:38 AM »
I could be wrong but I thought how many separate categories depended on how the entries looked but from what I read recently I gathered that you have to be in the same basic division, elite with elite, pre-elite with pre-elite, and then standard with standard, vet with vet (handler or dog, doesn't seem to matter) I don't understand the DD being part of anything but DD since they are running a different course (I think? I thought they were running the pre-elite course) I don't know about Jr. Handler but I would assume that they wouldn't let a single Jr. handler not compete in teams just because there wasn't another Jr. Handler to team with. I think we will know more after entries close. But height or preferred/skilled (are those even the NADAC terms? I can't remember anymore!) doesn't seem to matter, standard is standard I guess.
2018 Championships / Re: 8 ft or 9 ft A-frame at champs
« Last post by Lindsey Cooper on July 11, 2018, 10:10:27 PM »
Great to know - thanks! :)

2018 Championships / Courses
« Last post by hawksnestMT on July 11, 2018, 09:12:59 PM »
The courses from last year show the elite courses to be almost the same as the pre-elite with the addition of extra obstacles.  Will this yearís format be the same?
2018 Championships / Re: Team at Champs
« Last post by hawksnestMT on July 11, 2018, 09:09:19 PM »
I am still confused on team entry.  Does an elite dog/handler team need to be in the same subdivion ie standard, vet handler, vet dog, jr handler and only with another elite dog? On the other hand, since there are no subdivisions in pre-elite, can a team be anyone together that has a pre-elite dog? Earlier in another post, you mentioned vet handler and vet dog as separate divisions, but now this thread says they can be together. Please elaborate.
2018 Championships / Re: 2018 Championship Charms
« Last post by Jodi Schmidt on July 11, 2018, 05:34:29 PM »
I would like one please !
2018 Championships / Re: 8 ft or 9 ft A-frame at champs
« Last post by Linda W. Anderson on July 11, 2018, 05:29:19 PM »
We will actually be using a 9 foot a-frame this year.

The majority of clubs use a 9 footer, so it works a little better for a larger group of folks
Thank you!!
2018 Championships / Re: Team at Champs
« Last post by Chris Nelson on July 11, 2018, 03:51:18 PM »
And DD combines as well
2018 Championships / Re: Team at Champs
« Last post by Chris Nelson on July 11, 2018, 03:51:03 PM »
For team we do combine Veteran dog and Veteran Handler.   So yes those could be mixed :)
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