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General Discussion / VT Barrelers
« Last post by Donna & Gracie on December 11, 2017, 02:55:55 AM »
Just wanted first to thank you for letting the us voice our opinion and vote on some of the rule changes. Just one reason to love Nadac !! I know you just announced adding barrelers to the program and I was wondering how many barrels are needed to set elite courses. Thanks Donna and Gracie
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General Discussion / Re: VT Voting Results
« Last post by Chris Nelson on December 11, 2017, 01:24:40 AM »
Sorry for this taking so long everyone!   Had some major issues with the upload.




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General Discussion / Re: VT Voting Results
« Last post by knittingdog on December 10, 2017, 06:23:42 PM »

I hope you know you are driving me crazy waiting for this video.  Curious to see what the new rules are!  :)

No rush - I'm just excited to know the answers.  :)

Robin
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General Discussion / Re: Possible VT solutions
« Last post by Chris on Mushtown Road on December 10, 2017, 06:07:36 PM »
Some people are assuming that VT runs are taking place at training centers where dogs are taking class and they are therefore comfortable there.  That may be true in some cases but not all.  Even if it is the case how is that any different than those that only trial at the same place at regular trials?

VT runs don't take any runs from our trials.  People here are using them to supplement the classes that are harder for them or that aren't offered much.

I really don't understand how someone getting a title thru VT runs makes anybody else's title a joke.  Even if you believe that, if you get yours at regular trials isn't that different than how the other got theirs?

Quite frankly I don't care what anyone else says anyway.  I really don't understand why people feel the need to judge what brings others happiness. 

I am glad that NADAC has time/distance restrictions on judges.  I would find it boring to show under the same judge all the time.

Gina

As a local host, I can vouch for the fact that EVERYONE who has EVER done VT on Mushtown Road has been at the local, and not so local trials. We don't do the VT days  often enough that a person could possibly replace trial runs. We do them for the opportunity to train after a VT attempt (NOT BEFORE) and get feedback on handling for the future. A Q is a nice touch and sure, it  means people will show up here. My own VT-Q rate is likely worse because I have been building courses (although my crew is wonderful at helping change courses!) and because my dog is so amped up to have company on "his field" that I sometimes don't even run. in 2017 I think we had a whopping 43 runs here. Not going to affect attendance at our trials. And if I thought it would, I'd cancel in a heartbeat.


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General Discussion / Re: VT Voting Results
« Last post by Dheavner on December 10, 2017, 04:00:55 PM »
Thank you Chris!!
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General Discussion / Re: Possible VT solutions
« Last post by Becky Woodruff on December 10, 2017, 03:38:45 PM »
Well said Gina.  There are many facilities where people trial weekend after weekend under the same conditions and on the same equipment.  One facility comes to mind because I have heard people say they only trial there because a.  it is fully enclosed and b.  there are so many trials there.   It seems some  who are outspoken on this topic have said, NADAC is not their primary venue & they have never done VT.  Why people have to judge or belittle someone who for whatever reason cannot or does not attend regular trials is beyond me.   
And for those who think you don't get the same performance (some may, some may not) on a VT run as you do in a "real" trial, because their dog does great in training but blows them off at a trial, try pointing a camera at yourself and getting that same "training behavior"....
Becky

Some people are assuming that VT runs are taking place at training centers where dogs are taking class and they are therefore comfortable there.  That may be true in some cases but not all.  Even if it is the case how is that any different than those that only trial at the same place at regular trials?

VT runs don't take any runs from our trials.  People here are using them to supplement the classes that are harder for them or that aren't offered much.

I really don't understand how someone getting a title thru VT runs makes anybody else's title a joke.  Even if you believe that, if you get yours at regular trials isn't that different than how the other got theirs?

Quite frankly I don't care what anyone else says anyway.  I really don't understand why people feel the need to judge what brings others happiness. 

I am glad that NADAC has time/distance restrictions on judges.  I would find it boring to show under the same judge all the time.

Gina
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General Discussion / Re: VT Voting Results
« Last post by Chris Nelson on December 10, 2017, 02:39:12 PM »
Video will be posted here,  along with YouTube and Facebook.  Just got it filmed,  so just waiting on uploading now


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General Discussion / Re: VT Voting Results
« Last post by Dheavner on December 10, 2017, 02:35:41 PM »

Where will the video be posted?
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General Discussion / Re: VT Voting Results
« Last post by RobertStewart on December 10, 2017, 02:24:31 PM »
Overall really like most of the results! But, can live with the rest.

I don't think there's another agility organization that would even ask it's competitors
this kind of information. Another reason many of us really appreciate NADAC!

Robert
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General Discussion / Re: Possible VT solutions
« Last post by dogrsqr on December 10, 2017, 01:28:38 PM »
Some people are assuming that VT runs are taking place at training centers where dogs are taking class and they are therefore comfortable there.  That may be true in some cases but not all.  Even if it is the case how is that any different than those that only trial at the same place at regular trials?

VT runs don't take any runs from our trials.  People here are using them to supplement the classes that are harder for them or that aren't offered much.

I really don't understand how someone getting a title thru VT runs makes anybody else's title a joke.  Even if you believe that, if you get yours at regular trials isn't that different than how the other got theirs?

Quite frankly I don't care what anyone else says anyway.  I really don't understand why people feel the need to judge what brings others happiness. 

I am glad that NADAC has time/distance restrictions on judges.  I would find it boring to show under the same judge all the time.

Gina
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