More thanks for More great suggestions, I cannot always remember writing everything I have done so far, in my posts---I have tried a halti--getting it on him is a bit tough at the end of the run. I have sprayed his leash with bitter apple, citronella,etc. He doesn't care. What I am trying right now (with hopeful success) is a comfort chain leash--it is a chain leash interwoven with canvas, and a bit heavy but he does not seem to enjoy grabbing it. I will be trying this in other venues, as, although it is legal to tug, I do not want him over the top tugging in any trial ring. He seems to focus well on the next "task" so when leashing him up I will say "let's go find the toy" which of course will be outside the ring a ways, and will be a soft ball. I am pretty sure that this type of leash is not illegal in NADAC, correct? Thanks, Thea