quick video of barrel dog walk/tunnel

[Goldenbcagilitychamps]

"We" see it as two different things, but it is the same behavior to the dog.... go to the object and make a tight circle......... they will love the part where the same behavior can be used in multiple scenarios.... it just confirms what they already know and makes them feel that much better about themselves!

Sharon

So would you suggest I continue all the way in and keep pushing so they don't turn too quickly??

[Sharon Nelson]

Nope, just draw the path around the barrel and no need to go in and push!  You will both have fun!

Sharon

[Goldenbcagilitychamps]

Nope, just draw the path around the barrel and no need to go in and push!  You will both have fun!

Sharon

**  OK we'll give it a shot! 

[Karen Echternacht]

Will there ever be a full circle around a barrel?  For instance, heading east, circle the barrel, and continue on east?

[Kathy Phelan]

At our distance and directional seminar at the Battaglia's in Sparks NV today, Sunny and Amanda set up an A-frame -to a barrel - back to an A-frame/tunnel discrimination for us to try. Most of our dogs had never seen a barrel, although many of our pups have done outs around trees. I didn't see a single dog have any trouble switching around or coming tight around the barrel. It was FUN!

Kathy Phelan

[Sheila & the Shelties]

So when I start to teach it - what should I be telling them??

Thanks!

I think with any command or obstacle there is no "absolute" command you have to use, as long as it feels comfortable for you to use. and the dog understands what you mean.  You could call it pumpkin or succotash if you wanted...   

[Sharon Nelson]

I think with any command or obstacle there is no "absolute" command you have to use, as long as it feels comfortable for you to use. and the dog understands what you mean.  You could call it pumpkin or succotash if you wanted...   
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So very true!!

Sharon

[Team Twodog]

How in the world is it that the other dog just stands there and watches? 

I'm curious too. What is the deal with the fluffy dog who hovers like a sheep in the foreground the whole time? Is that an older dog who just hangs out, or do you actually train your dogs to stand and watch each other work?
 
I understand putting a non-working dog in some kind of a stay while another dog runs, but this one looks to be free roaming.

Kim (still experimenting with how best to juggle my dogs during training)

[Jeannie Biggers]

Kim,

I have one dog that well had NO impulse control a few years ago... I actually use my training sessions as impulse control training sessions as well (if that makes sense??)    I started in the winter at the barn I train in.  The lady had an old mattress in there and I thought it was a perfect place for my dogs to lay instead of bringing in some type of crate or xpen each time.  It took a little time but now I can work a dog while the others are in a wait.  (Well except for my spoiled one that roams just like Lisas Moxie!!)

It is actually pretty cool and fun cause I put them in a stay and call one of their names to come play.  I always make sure that I reward the ones staying with a treat, a verbal reward, or releasing them!! 

I am lazy so this works great for me and it does a lot for my dogs 

[DonovanZoo]

I notice that the dog,in this scenario, is always sent Out,counter clockwise, around the barrel.  With tunnels the dog will often have to come in to you and not take the "obvious" tunnel entrance. Will there be occasions where the dog coming off the dogwalk or out of the tunnel have to circle the barrel clockwise, on the right shoulder? Maybe Lisa was just starting with these dogs(though I doubt it     ), and establishing one direction before doing the other. Just wondering if they will have the challenge of not going in the "obvious" path?

Chrissy Donovan
Tucson

[Jackie Brasen]

set this up tonight with the $6 dollar general short leaf barrel.

We had previously done a little bit of out around stuff, not much just enough to get Journey moving around the object as opposed to interacting with it other ways... not surprisingly Journey rocked it. Only his humans struggle with things like keep moving on the send even if moving means inches vs big steps etc.   

   
 

[Sheila & the Shelties]

I notice that the dog,in this scenario, is always sent Out,counter clockwise, around the barrel.  With tunnels the dog will often have to come in to you and not take the "obvious" tunnel entrance. Will there be occasions where the dog coming off the dogwalk or out of the tunnel have to circle the barrel clockwise, on the right shoulder? Maybe Lisa was just starting with these dogs(though I doubt it     ), and establishing one direction before doing the other. Just wondering if they will have the challenge of not going in the "obvious" path?

Chrissy Donovan
Tucson

So far I've seen them treated much like tunnels on EGC courses, i.e., the dog has to go either clockwise or counterclockwise around barrels, or the barrels are bi-directional (you can go either way around the barrel).  I don't know, however, what plans Sharon has for a barrel appearing on a "regular" course, as I have not seen any yet, so only Sharon can answer that!

[Lisa Schmit In The Zone Agility]

It cracks me up as every time I post a video more people comment about moxie than my video

My free roaming dog is my 12 year old spoiled rotten get whatever he wants love of my life Moxie!!

Since I dont train him, he is just happy supervising my training sessions with the youngin's.

He gets in my way, barks at me and if I have treats comes in and goes them when he wants. Gotta love him!!!

Moxie is the only dog I let roam in thev ring when I am training and I suspect Tandem will take his place hanging in thevring sometime in the far future .

I actually forget he is in the videos until I watch them.     Moxie hates when I do video runs as he has to be outside the ring and it really pisses him off!!

In regards to always going out around the barrel I am going to train the out around and train come in around.   The purpose of the video was the show everyone an example of the use of the barrel so wanted to be successful.   I. Will train in around as well and I am going to have two separate verbals commands forv out around barrel and in switch around barrel.

[Heidi Konesko]

I'm looking forward to hearing more about how people are working the turn away around the barrel.  It's not very smooth with us, I'm pullling Penny way in towards me and then abruptly switching her out.  Seems like it should be more of a subtle change with me drawing the path better I think...but she just wants to go out first and turn towards me. Seems like the need to change leads is part of it.  But maybe I'm thinking about it too much.

[Sheila & the Shelties]

I'm looking forward to hearing more about how people are working the turn away around the barrel.  It's not very smooth with us, I'm pullling Penny way in towards me and then abruptly switching her out.  Seems like it should be more of a subtle change with me drawing the path better I think...but she just wants to go out first and turn towards me. Seems like the need to change leads is part of it.  But maybe I'm thinking about it too much.

Do you have a "switch" or similar command?  (dog turns away from you)  If so, I would begin with that.