Re: EGC 2015

[Sharon Nelson]

So in order to get All Around NATCH, do you need to have your superiors in all levels? 
Or is it 230 Regular and 130 points in ALL other classes?
Thanks
lisa

Superiors have never been a part of a NATCH.  The All Around will require all points needed for a NATCH, Versatility NATCH, plus 230 points in X-Hoopers and 230 points in Barrelers.

Sharon

Thanks Sharon - that is what I wanted to know -   I think Kiva is closing in on an All Around NATCH then

Awesome!!

Sharon

[Sharon Nelson]

Ok trying to understand

Until recently, you needed superiors in EGC to move up...but that is no longer the case.  You can get 30 points and move up.

In order to get an All Around NATCH, you need 230 in barrelers and hoopers in addition to NATCH VNATCH  requirements.   Just curious as to why we would need 230 in those two classes but only 130 in the other non-regular classes.   

Is barrels and hoopers going to still be 'beta' format even if the trial is not beta?  Or will there will 2 different courses for these classes?

Thanks so much
lisa

Yes, Barrelers and Hoopers will remain the same course, run twice.

The scoring will stay in the original format used for the Extreme NATCH (requiring 230 points).

Sharon

[Rebecca Kriz]

Does the All Around NATCH specifically need X-Hoopers points, or is it any type Hoopers now that X and numbered are combined for points?

[Sharon Nelson]

Does the All Around NATCH specifically need X-Hoopers points, or is it any type Hoopers now that X and numbered are combined for points?

X-Hoopers.

Sharon

[Cheryl Gilbert]

When do the requirements for the all around awards change?  Will these classes be included in the VT program at some point?  Thanks!

[Sharon Nelson]

When do the requirements for the all around awards change?  Will these classes be included in the VT program at some point?  Thanks!

The All Arounds Awards haven't changed.  We are currently discussing an All Around NATCH, but the original All Arounds won't change.  Barrelers and X-hoopers will not be part of the VT program, as they have to be judged by a "live" judge for flow.  We could do it via video, but the video would have to be perfect, and that is a big criteria to show every sequence for flow.

Sharon

[Cheryl Gilbert]

Aha!!!  Thanks so much!!! 

[mephalon]

I am disappointed that Strategic Hoopers will no longer be as it was one of my favorite classes.

As a trial host can you tell me when this will take effect?  My trial apps for the rest of the year along with the premiums have been approved and posted- and they include Strategic Hoopers.   

Thanks

Mary

[mephalon]

"Clubs can offer Numbered Hoopers or X-Hoopers and those points will combine together as "Hoopers".

So what level do you enter if the points are combined.   My girl is in Elite Hoopers but Novice X-Hoopers.     Do I enter Elite if it is Numbered Hoopers but Novice if it is X-Hoopers?   Or do I now enter Elite for both since it is now "Hoopers" without the distinction.   

TIA

Mary

[Sara Langston]

Gaters can go to Barrelers,  X-Chances and x-Gmablers could go to Chances.

There will be no more Extreme NATCH, it will be replaced with an All Around NATCH that includes X-Hoopers and Barrelers.

Barrelers will be called Barrelers, not Extreme Barrelers.  We will stop using the acronym of EGC, since Barrelers and X-Hoopers will become NADAC classes and not a separate entity.  Strategic Hoopers will end.  Clubs can offer Numbered Hoopers or X-Hoopers and those points will combine together as "Hoopers".

Sharon

So, so, so, so, so, sad to see Strategic Hoopers go away.  I love Strategic Hoopers!!!!!  I don't like Numbered Hoopers!!!  It is just a Jumpers course with hoops.  From my standpoint, Strategic Hoopers offered lots more opportunities for handling challenges.  JMHO

For those of us in the Hinterlands who have not had access to EGC trials and courses, is there anywhere I can see examples of the courses for the X-Hoopers and Barrelers classes?  Also, how does this impact my Laughing Dog Agility trial in October???  I am offering Strategic Hoopers as one of the classes.  The premium has already been approved and I am about to publish it.  Does the AU software support scoring of X-Hoopers and Barrelers or do we need to score it by hand???

Thanks for any input and help anyone can offer me. 

Sara Langston, Laughing Dog Agility

[Linda L]

So as far as points transferring...  Say you have 30 points in Extreme Hoopers, and 0 in Regular Hoopers.  Do you now have 30 in Regular Hoopers and a HP-N title?  Similary you have 30 in Gaters & 30 in Barrellers, do you now have the Outstanding Barrellers title? What happens to the titles that you had in classes that are no longer available?  Thanks.   

[Sharon Nelson]

I am disappointed that Strategic Hoopers will no longer be as it was one of my favorite classes.

As a trial host can you tell me when this will take effect?  My trial apps for the rest of the year along with the premiums have been approved and posted- and they include Strategic Hoopers.   

Thanks

Mary

All trials offering Strategic Hoopers can still offer that class.  Strategic Hoopers is only offered 9 times in the next year.  Five of those 9 are being offered by SCOR!  So Strategic Hoopers is only being offered in five locations for the year.  Clubs just haven't offered it and the people just didn't support it.

Sharon

[Sharon Nelson]

"Clubs can offer Numbered Hoopers or X-Hoopers and those points will combine together as "Hoopers".

So what level do you enter if the points are combined.   My girl is in Elite Hoopers but Novice X-Hoopers.     Do I enter Elite if it is Numbered Hoopers but Novice if it is X-Hoopers?   Or do I now enter Elite for both since it is now "Hoopers" without the distinction.   

TIA

Mary

You must enter the level you are eligible for.  So, yes you would be in Elite Hoopers and Novice X-Hoopers.  You can't enter Elite for both if you are not eligible for Elite in both.

Sharon

[Sharon Nelson]

Gaters can go to Barrelers,  X-Chances and x-Gmablers could go to Chances.

There will be no more Extreme NATCH, it will be replaced with an All Around NATCH that includes X-Hoopers and Barrelers.

Barrelers will be called Barrelers, not Extreme Barrelers.  We will stop using the acronym of EGC, since Barrelers and X-Hoopers will become NADAC classes and not a separate entity.  Strategic Hoopers will end.  Clubs can offer Numbered Hoopers or X-Hoopers and those points will combine together as "Hoopers".

Sharon

So, so, so, so, so, sad to see Strategic Hoopers go away.  I love Strategic Hoopers!!!!!  I don't like Numbered Hoopers!!!  It is just a Jumpers course with hoops.  From my standpoint, Strategic Hoopers offered lots more opportunities for handling challenges.  JMHO

For those of us in the Hinterlands who have not had access to EGC trials and courses, is there anywhere I can see examples of the courses for the X-Hoopers and Barrelers classes?  Also, how does this impact my Laughing Dog Agility trial in October???  I am offering Strategic Hoopers as one of the classes.  The premium has already been approved and I am about to publish it.  Does the AU software support scoring of X-Hoopers and Barrelers or do we need to score it by hand???

Thanks for any input and help anyone can offer me. 

Sara Langston, Laughing Dog Agility

Laughing Dog can still offer Strategic Hoopers in October.  They are one of five clubs that offered it this year.  AU supports X-Hoopers and Barrelers.  Only Gamblers is scored by hand.

Sharon

[Sharon Nelson]

So as far as points transferring...  Say you have 30 points in Extreme Hoopers, and 0 in Regular Hoopers.  Do you now have 30 in Regular Hoopers and a HP-N title?  Similary you have 30 in Gaters & 30 in Barrellers, do you now have the Outstanding Barrellers title? What happens to the titles that you had in classes that are no longer available?  Thanks.   

Transfers will not be automatic.  They will need to be requested by emailing me.  Some people do want to keep all titles in the original classes.

Sharon