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Shirley Wallace

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Re: Dog Food Suggestions
« Reply #15 on: July 21, 2016, 07:11:19 PM »
There is one more brand of grain free food worth looking into.  Annamaet Petfoods, based in Pennsylvania, has 3 grain free formulas.  The company is family owned and run and has been since its inception in 1986.   The owner, Rob Downey, is a personal friend (which of course makes me a little biased) and I don't know anyone who has a higher level of integrity and dedication than Rob.  We have been feeding Annamaet since 1987, and have the Midwest distributorship for it.  It can be ordered online as well.  The 3 formulas are Aqualuk (cold water based), Salcha (poultry based), and Manitok (red meat based).  I just went to their website to check the exact ingredient list, and there is no "hidden" grains that I can see.  There are some vegetables.  I saw peas  and chick peas. 
I am by no means an expert on this, but I know that Annamaet is a quality product.  Couldn't hurt to look at it.
Incidentally, Rob has just been named as a 2016 Pet Age Icon.
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Re: Dog Food Suggestions
« Reply #16 on: July 21, 2016, 10:27:54 PM »
There is one more brand of grain free food worth looking into.  Annamaet Petfoods, based in Pennsylvania, has 3 grain free formulas.  The company is family owned and run and has been since its inception in 1986.   The owner, Rob Downey, is a personal friend (which of course makes me a little biased) and I don't know anyone who has a higher level of integrity and dedication than Rob.  We have been feeding Annamaet since 1987, and have the Midwest distributorship for it.  It can be ordered online as well.  The 3 formulas are Aqualuk (cold water based), Salcha (poultry based), and Manitok (red meat based).  I just went to their website to check the exact ingredient list, and there is no "hidden" grains that I can see.  There are some vegetables.  I saw peas  and chick peas. 
I am by no means an expert on this, but I know that Annamaet is a quality product.  Couldn't hurt to look at it.
Incidentally, Rob has just been named as a 2016 Pet Age Icon.
Shirley Wallace

I would certainly vouch for how Shirley's dog's look on it!!  I have used their treats (which are made from the same formula as their food) and my dog's LOVE it!!

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Re: Dog Food Suggestions
« Reply #17 on: July 22, 2016, 05:29:02 AM »
My store--an independent t dealership--doesn't carry Annamaet simply because it has an exclusive contract with another shop locally. We'd love to have it available otherwise. There are a LOT of grain free nibbles  out there, many of them quite good, and then there is also raw, and there are brands without veggies or grains there--but of course the whole silica issue does complicate it more than just simply grain free.  Will probably take some research, trusted medical advice, and not too much input from the likes of us who have never faced this specific issue :-).  Best of luck finding a solution that works for you!
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Re: Dog Food Suggestions
« Reply #18 on: July 22, 2016, 07:03:45 AM »
EVO was part of my rotation briefly in the early 2000's. I stopped feeding it when Procter and Gamble purchased the company in 2010. They had multiple recalls in 2013, then were sold to Mars in 2014.  Just my own preference, I try to stick with foods that are independently owned rather than being just a small part of some large corporation.
Champion makes Acana and Orijen. Besides being a Canadian company (gotta love the Canadians, right??!!) they identify their suppliers...by name...which for me inspires confidence. One of our sales reps toured their plant and his lunch was made with raw ingredients from the dog food.  I thought that was impressive. That being said, I have already mentioned their formula changes because of their new US plants (with the bags getting smaller) that have me a little concerned. I am reserving judgement until I see how it all shakes out.  The roll out has been gradual, seems like it was Acana first, protein source by protein source.  We just today got the first "American" bag of Orijen fish.

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I agree with your evaluation of EVO.  Used to be a great product but has changed hands several times.  No confidence there........

Orijen and Acana are off my list now that they are moving the product to the US.  "I" believe that some of the Canadian sources are much better than US sources... so I will stop using Acana now that is it rolling in with American sources.  I hope I am very wrong and Acana will remain a GREAT product, but I lost some confidence when they switched locations and sources.....

Feeding dogs is WAY too tough anymore!  Too much money is spent promoting the label names on most instead of producing the best possible quality!  But they do have to sell food to make a profit and so much of that is about their advertising dollar and the return on that dollar.

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Re: Dog Food Suggestions
« Reply #19 on: July 22, 2016, 07:04:50 AM »
Sharon,

What dog food do you feed??

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« Reply #20 on: July 22, 2016, 07:08:25 AM »
ok i am so sorry but i am trying to figure out how to reply to the posts from everyone and can not figure out how to do it other than  doing a NEW POST HELPPPPPPPPPP

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« Reply #21 on: July 22, 2016, 07:13:10 AM »
i have looked at all of these foods and they all have great protein but then lots of veggies that he is not suppose to have.  I am really struggling here, he can not live on white rice and chicken much longer, he is really hungry for some food with substance and i am sure that he is becoming malnourished
You may have to look into making food for him, I would highly recommend Monica Segal. She does canine nutrition consults and does an excellent job.
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« Reply #22 on: July 22, 2016, 07:17:41 AM »
when i called Champion Pet Food yesterday she told me that she had no idea what the SILICA content of their food is. My friend who works in Nature Made Vitamins said that all products have to know what their ingredients are but if they are low enough do not need to be printed on the label. But Champion said they had no idea??????????????

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« Reply #23 on: July 22, 2016, 07:28:40 AM »
i have looked at all of these foods and they all have great protein but then lots of veggies that he is not suppose to have.  I am really struggling here, he can not live on white rice and chicken much longer, he is really hungry for some food with substance and i am sure that he is becoming malnourished
You may have to look into making food for him, I would highly recommend Monica Segal. She does canine nutrition consults and does an excellent job.
Amanda


I just looked up Monica and just set up for a telephone consultation, i will let you know how it goes-thank you

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Re: Dog Food Suggestions
« Reply #24 on: July 22, 2016, 07:32:18 AM »
There is one more brand of grain free food worth looking into.  Annamaet Petfoods, based in Pennsylvania, has 3 grain free formulas.  The company is family owned and run and has been since its inception in 1986.   The owner, Rob Downey, is a personal friend (which of course makes me a little biased) and I don't know anyone who has a higher level of integrity and dedication than Rob.  We have been feeding Annamaet since 1987, and have the Midwest distributorship for it.  It can be ordered online as well.  The 3 formulas are Aqualuk (cold water based), Salcha (poultry based), and Manitok (red meat based).  I just went to their website to check the exact ingredient list, and there is no "hidden" grains that I can see.  There are some vegetables.  I saw peas  and chick peas. 
I am by no means an expert on this, but I know that Annamaet is a quality product.  Couldn't hurt to look at it.
Incidentally, Rob has just been named as a 2016 Pet Age Icon.
Shirley Wallace

i am going to call them right now- thank youooooooouuuuuu

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Re: Dog Food Suggestions
« Reply #25 on: July 22, 2016, 07:38:48 AM »
i have looked at all of these foods and they all have great protein but then lots of veggies that he is not suppose to have.  I am really struggling here, he can not live on white rice and chicken much longer, he is really hungry for some food with substance and i am sure that he is becoming malnourished
You may have to look into making food for him, I would highly recommend Monica Segal. She does canine nutrition consults and does an excellent job.
Amanda

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just sent in for a consultation -=thankyou

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Re: Dog Food Suggestions
« Reply #26 on: July 22, 2016, 07:58:58 AM »
i have looked at all of these foods and they all have great protein but then lots of veggies that he is not suppose to have.  I am really struggling here, he can not live on white rice and chicken much longer, he is really hungry for some food with substance and i am sure that he is becoming malnourished
You may have to look into making food for him, I would highly recommend Monica Segal. She does canine nutrition consults and does an excellent job.
Amanda

Her website is monicasegal.com.  I believe she's in Canada but I could be mistaken.  She has a lot of information on her website, but she also specializes in individualized diets.  Good luck!

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Re: Dog Food Suggestions
« Reply #27 on: July 22, 2016, 10:06:01 AM »
I was wondering myself how you would know about silica content in dog food.   

From the Whole Dog Journal

Other foods that are high in silica, and which should be avoided, include the hulls of wheat, oats, and rice (hulls are found in whole grains); sugar beets; sugar cane pulp; seafood; potatoes and other root vegetables; onions (which shouldn’t be fed to dogs, anyway); bell peppers; asparagus; cabbage; carrots; apples; oranges; cherries; nuts and seeds; grains; soybeans; and the herbs alfalfa, horsetail, comfrey, dandelion, and nettles. Bentonite clay, a mineral supplement, is also high in silicates.

Dogs who drink water from sources containing sand may develop silica uroliths, so water that contains silica (a primary mineral in sand) should be avoided. In hard-water areas, distilled water is recommended for dogs who form silica stones. Silica stones have also been associated with pica, an eating disorder that causes dogs to eat dirt, rocks, and other non-food items.


So not just grains, but some veggies and fruits and seafood.  So my Fromm's Salmon Tunalinni is probably not a good one for you.  Not sure if they might have something that would be as they have a wide variety of foods. 

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« Reply #28 on: July 22, 2016, 12:30:08 PM »
I was wondering myself how you would know about silica content in dog food.   

From the Whole Dog Journal

Other foods that are high in silica, and which should be avoided, include the hulls of wheat, oats, and rice (hulls are found in whole grains); sugar beets; sugar cane pulp; seafood; potatoes and other root vegetables; onions (which shouldn’t be fed to dogs, anyway); bell peppers; asparagus; cabbage; carrots; apples; oranges; cherries; nuts and seeds; grains; soybeans; and the herbs alfalfa, horsetail, comfrey, dandelion, and nettles. Bentonite clay, a mineral supplement, is also high in silicates.

Dogs who drink water from sources containing sand may develop silica uroliths, so water that contains silica (a primary mineral in sand) should be avoided. In hard-water areas, distilled water is recommended for dogs who form silica stones. Silica stones have also been associated with pica, an eating disorder that causes dogs to eat dirt, rocks, and other non-food items.


So not just grains, but some veggies and fruits and seafood.  So my Fromm's Salmon Tunalinni is probably not a good one for you.  Not sure if they might have something that would be as they have a wide variety of foods. 

Gina Pizzo

Thank you, i seem to keep hitting block walls with this, but learning a lot-thank you for your information

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Re: Dog Food Suggestions
« Reply #29 on: July 22, 2016, 12:31:58 PM »
i have looked at all of these foods and they all have great protein but then lots of veggies that he is not suppose to have.  I am really struggling here, he can not live on white rice and chicken much longer, he is really hungry for some food with substance and i am sure that he is becoming malnourished
You may have to look into making food for him, I would highly recommend Monica Segal. She does canine nutrition consults and does an excellent job.
Amanda

I talked to her today thank you-problem still not solved


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