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Chris Nelson

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Upcoming changes to Hoopers and X-hoopers
« on: January 29, 2017, 12:23:13 PM »
Hey Folks,

Announcement video below.   Goes into effect in April.

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Re: Upcoming changes to Hoopers and X-hoopers
« Reply #1 on: January 29, 2017, 12:47:35 PM »
I like this change!

Will there be any adjustments to All Around Natch and the All Around Award? Or will the combined Hoopers class just be used for both and requirements otherwise stay as is?

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Re: Upcoming changes to Hoopers and X-hoopers
« Reply #2 on: January 29, 2017, 12:51:04 PM »
I like this change!

Will there be any adjustments to All Around Natch and the All Around Award? Or will the combined Hoopers class just be used for both and requirements otherwise stay as is?

Denise

The combined class will be used as the requirement for any award that required either Hoopers or X-Hoopers :)

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Re: Upcoming changes to Hoopers and X-hoopers
« Reply #3 on: January 29, 2017, 01:23:11 PM »
What about qualifying for 2017 Championships?  Currently (per the website), we are required to earn 20 points in X-Hoopers, any level. 

Do we have to earn X-Hoopers points prior to April?  Would the combined hoopers class cover our requirements?

If we have numbered hooper Q's for the current year, prior to the classes being combined, would that satisfy the requirements?

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Re: Upcoming changes to Hoopers and X-hoopers
« Reply #4 on: January 29, 2017, 01:32:00 PM »
They will combine so it won't matter.   We just need to update the Champs page to reflect that :)

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Re: Upcoming changes to Hoopers and X-hoopers
« Reply #5 on: January 29, 2017, 02:22:40 PM »
Question about the points combining.  My Roxanne is in Elite Regular Hoopers but Novice X-Hoopers.   She has her Superiors in Novice, Open and Elite Regular Hoopers and I was working toward her Superior in Novice.

So in the new combined class what level do I enter her in and what happens to her Novice X-Hoopers points?   

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Re: Upcoming changes to Hoopers and X-hoopers
« Reply #6 on: January 29, 2017, 02:26:17 PM »
They will all combine.   So if she has her Superiors in Numbered Hoopers then she will still have those superiors in the combined class.

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Re: Upcoming changes to Hoopers and X-hoopers
« Reply #7 on: January 29, 2017, 02:26:30 PM »
You would be in Elite :)

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Re: Upcoming changes to Hoopers and X-hoopers
« Reply #8 on: January 29, 2017, 02:33:42 PM »
Okay, so I was going to enter X-Hoopers at a trial in March to get qualifiers for Champs. But my dogs already have titles in regular Hoopers, so essentially I don't need to enter them in X-Hoopers now? If we need current-year points in Hoopers I'd rather wait until April when the gates are gone. So really, I guess I answered my own question and won't be entering X-Hoopers in March.

Thanks! I appreciate this change.
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Re: Upcoming changes to Hoopers and X-hoopers
« Reply #9 on: January 29, 2017, 02:35:53 PM »
Okay, so I was going to enter X-Hoopers at a trial in March to get qualifiers for Champs. But my dogs already have titles in regular Hoopers, so essentially I don't need to enter them in X-Hoopers now? If we need current-year points in Hoopers I'd rather wait until April when the gates are gone. So really, I guess I answered my own question and won't be entering X-Hoopers in March.

Thanks! I appreciate this change.

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Re: Upcoming changes to Hoopers and X-hoopers
« Reply #10 on: January 29, 2017, 02:43:11 PM »
Thanks Chris-  I assume the opposite would apply as well- if you are in a higher level in X-Hoopers than Regular you would enter the new combined Hoopers at your X-Hoopers higher level-  is that correct?

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Re: Upcoming changes to Hoopers and X-hoopers
« Reply #11 on: January 29, 2017, 02:45:01 PM »
Basically just add up your points in each level for both Hoopers and X-Hoopers.   That will become your new total for each level in what will now be known as Hoopers.   

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Re: Upcoming changes to Hoopers and X-hoopers
« Reply #12 on: January 29, 2017, 02:47:13 PM »
So- adding my Fitzroy's Into Regular Hooper plus his Into X-Hoopers he would have 100 points in the new Hoopers at the Intro level- as of April does he have his Superior Into Hoopers title?   

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Re: Upcoming changes to Hoopers and X-hoopers
« Reply #13 on: January 29, 2017, 02:50:34 PM »
Hi Chris, just a couple of comments and a question.

I thought the extreme Hoopers was an excellent distance challenge for those of us trying to expand our skills. I did think that novice was a little bit too hard sometimes, and perhaps needed to be made a little bit easier. I haven't seen it much, because it wasn't offered in our area. And that leads to my next comment. Some people are hesitant to jump on new things because they think that they will go away or be changed. So those of us who are often eager to try new things and see if they will work, won't get that because the new and different things in the future will not be available until it's certain it's not going to be changed or go away. The only other thought I had is that sometimes it's difficult on a limited budget to buy a new equipment if it is needed only to see that particular need for it go away.

I can't say I'm unhappy it's going away, but I can't say I'm happy either.

You said that the x pattern will still remain in the redesign of Hooper's courses. I'm assuming that means there will be no distance challenge. In other words, you can go in the areas in the x pattern that were prevented by the Gates or pens. Thanks for letting us know about the change!
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Re: Upcoming changes to Hoopers and X-hoopers
« Reply #14 on: January 29, 2017, 02:53:32 PM »
One more question. Why is the change being made? Just curious. If you think it will open a whole new can of worms, you can reply privately.  😎
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