Another Team Question

[Deni]

Will there be "draws" done again this year to match up entrants who don't have other team members identified? Didnt see that option on the Team entry form, so just confirming before I hit submit.  Riot (Silver Stakes Vet) and Juno (Pre-Elite Standard) will both be in need of teammates. 

Thanks, Denise

[Chris Nelson]

Ahh I do need to get that added!

Thanks Denise!

[knittingdog]

Just sent you a FB message Denise regarding preElite team.

Robin & Surge

[Vicki Storrs]

Vicki and Dega will be looking for teammates in Vet Pre Elite.  Dega is a Portuguese Water Dog, Vicki is a fat old lady with oxygen issues so super competitive people should pass us by.  We're there for the fun!
Vicki

[Rosemary]

I am entering champs for the first time.  Are we supposed to be a part of a team or is that a separate thing?  What would be the advantage of being in a team?

[Linda W. Anderson]

I am entering champs for the first time.  Are we supposed to be a part of a team or is that a separate thing?  What would be the advantage of being in a team?

Team is totally optional.  Being on a team might help you connect with new people.  I don't see any down side other than spending more money.
Linda

[kbriefel]

Do all dogs on a team have to jump same height?
Ken Briefel, Maya and Max

[KarissaKS]

Do all dogs on a team have to jump same height?

No, the only requirement for team is that all dogs be in the same division. The divisions are:

Regular
Veteran
Double-digit
Pre-Elite

[Rosemary]

How many are in a team?  My husband and I are entering three dogs this year. Could we make our own team? 

[Vicki Storrs]

Do all dogs on a team have to jump same height?

No, the only requirement for team is that all dogs be in the same division. The divisions are:

Regular
Veteran
Double-digit
Pre-Elite

Not exactly, I don't think, since Regular Champs and Pre Elite both offer Veterans.

So would it be...?

Regular Champs
Regular Veteran Champs
Pre Elite
Pre Elite Veterans
Double Digit

Plus the stakes groups...

Does that sound right?

Vicki

[KarissaKS]

There may or may not be a Veteran division in Pre-Elite.

From the premium under qualifications for Pre-Elite:

If a dog is  over  7  on  August  1,  2017,  then  they  MUST  enter  the  Veterans  division.    If  a dog  is  over  10  on  the  first  day  of  the  Championships,  then  they  will  be  entered  into  the Double Digit division. Veterans may or may not be split into a different division in Pre-Elite,  depending  upon  entry  numbers.    If  not  split,  then  all  dogs  jumping  at  the  same height will be scored together.

I can't speak for last year, but I'm pretty sure there was no Veteran Pre-Elite split in 2015. We had a 4/8 group, a 12" group, and a 16/20 group.

[Vicki Storrs]

There may or may not be a Veteran division in Pre-Elite.

From the premium under qualifications for Pre-Elite:

If a dog is  over  7  on  August  1,  2017,  then  they  MUST  enter  the  Veterans  division.    If  a dog  is  over  10  on  the  first  day  of  the  Championships,  then  they  will  be  entered  into  the Double Digit division. Veterans may or may not be split into a different division in Pre-Elite,  depending  upon  entry  numbers.    If  not  split,  then  all  dogs  jumping  at  the  same height will be scored together.

I can't speak for last year, but I'm pretty sure there was no Veteran Pre-Elite split in 2015. We had a 4/8 group, a 12" group, and a 16/20
Vicki

[Vicki Storrs]

I withdrew my earlier post, I thought I was in a vet division in Pre elite in Springfield in 2015, but thinking back I'm not so sure.
So that means, how do I find a team mate, if there may or may not be a pre elite vet group?  Maybe we just find pre elite teammates...But if it doesn't matter there, why does it matter in the regular Champs?  (Matter as far as for teams, not for having the division/separation in the first place). Seems like in both cases the dogs are running the same course.  Pre elite dogs run the same course whether vet or not.  Regular Champs dogs run the same course whether vet or not.  Double Digit dogs run the pre elite courses as I recall....  I would think that it would be the course/starting point total that would define who could be on a team...  Except by breaking out the vets for teams we have more "winners" (nothing wrong with that) and you have vets competing against vets...but then Not in pre elite...
Oh well, obviously, I'm just TOTALLY confused, but I'm just old and senile anyway!!!  :-)
Vicki

[Chris Nelson]

We typically have not had enough entries in Pre-Elite to warrant splitting up the teams into Vet and standard.   So last year for instance we just had Pre-Elite team that covered everything.
To be exact last year for teams we had:
Standard
Veteran
Double Digit
Pre-Elite

As for who can be on which team.   Just needs to be the same division.

So Double digit > double digit
Veteran > Veteran
Standard > Standard
Pre-Elite > Pre-Elite

It would be a little odd to have two dogs as Standards, with one dog being a Veteran and you enter as a Veteran team.   Kind of throwing a couple ringers in there

[DebbieP]

Just to be sure I'm checking the right box on the Team form    -

My dog will be running as a vet.  I'm NOT a veteran handler.  The only non-stakes boxes I see on the Team form are:

Standard
Vet/Junior Handler
Pre-Elite
Double-Digit

Does the Vet/Junior Handler include vet dogs?  Thank you!
---Debbie P with Dylan