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Vicki Storrs

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Re: posting of courses
« Reply #15 on: September 02, 2017, 02:59:16 PM »
your club may set a timer but not all do. Just like NATCH bars (had 'em in NV, have never seen them offered anywhere in MD) and award ribbons, all clubs are different, when it comes to things where there are no specific rules (and sometimes when there are...) so if you've primarily run in one specific area of the country, you might be surprised by how things are done somewhere else.  It may sound like a broken record lately , but you just have to go with the flow...
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BeckyAH

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Re: posting of courses
« Reply #16 on: September 02, 2017, 07:52:42 PM »
There are timers set for at least some trials I attend, though I only became aware of it because my husband (who scribes a lot) told me that it is often a thing.  Otherwise, I would have never known; it's just not an obvious/jarring thing, at least the way I've seen it done.

That said, while it can be daunting to try to remember the courses I find it really DOES, as with everything agility related, get easier with time/practice.   NADAC courses are so flowing it really helps.  You're not going to know where the course goes before you walk it, you do need to walk it, but sooner or later you start seeing lines of obstacles, not individual obstacles.  That helps both with running and remembering the courses.

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Re: posting of courses
« Reply #17 on: September 05, 2017, 03:09:33 PM »
Back when I started agility, we got the courses in advance in USDAA and AKC.   I usually ground them up and fed them to my dog in hopes that they would internalize the task ahead.     

Now that I'm in NADAC, we don't get them in advance and we are doing just fine.  I guess I shouldn't have been feeding my dogs agility courses all those years.

On a more serious note.   There are games in USDAA and AKC such as Snooker, Gambler and FAST that require you to set your own path that course maps were required to plan out your route.    Since there are no games that need pre-planning in NADAC, there is really no need to get those courses in advance.   The walk throughs always have more than a generous amount of time to walk and plan your path.   I find it so much less stressful not having to obsess over maps before we run.   Just enjoy the day and what ever the courses are .






Pam Kaye

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Re: posting of courses
« Reply #18 on: September 05, 2017, 04:22:39 PM »
Back when I started agility, we didn't get courses handed out at USDAA.  There was one posted copy and we all crowded around it with our tracing paper and pencils.  Really.
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Becky Woodruff

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Re: posting of courses
« Reply #19 on: September 06, 2017, 07:27:16 AM »
Pam,
Can you believe that was back before smart phones??

Becky

Back when I started agility, we didn't get courses handed out at USDAA.  There was one posted copy and we all crowded around it with our tracing paper and pencils.  Really.
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Pam Kaye

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Re: posting of courses
« Reply #20 on: September 06, 2017, 08:36:08 AM »
Becky, it seems like that was before any phones.
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Re: posting of courses
« Reply #21 on: September 06, 2017, 08:50:17 AM »
I have run AKC and CPE which do hand out course maps and NADAC which does not.  Personally, I find that if I have the course map I overthink it too much.  The games that require me to plot my own path are the only maps that I use.  However, I primarily run NADAC now and like having to simply follow the numbers.  The patterns become easier to spot and I look for the "off course traps" a bit more closely. (Not saying they don't get me anyway :) )My first walk is to simply check the numbers, after that I walk with my virtual dog. 

I have also never been denied the opportunity to see a course map when I've asked.  I have managed to miss a walk through once or twice so it really came in handy then.

Most often we use a timer during the walk through.  This is to keep the trial moving.  I don't think I have ever seen anyone denied an extra pass if they requested it, but an indefinite amount of walk through time could add up quickly.

Overall, the NADAC trials that I have entered all seem to have the same philosophy.  Don't stress out.  Have fun with your dog.  Ask questions.  We all want to have a good time.

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Re: posting of courses
« Reply #22 on: September 16, 2017, 03:45:53 PM »
I have never seen a course posted at any NADAC trial I have been to.  ty

Richard Wolfe

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Re: posting of courses
« Reply #23 on: September 16, 2017, 06:49:20 PM »
In my experience, they are almost always left by the course builder, or judge after review, on the scorer's table in the ring on a clipboard and are available to view.  If you're looking for them to be on a bulletin board or elsewhere, I almost never see one posted like that.
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Cindy Lee

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Re: posting of courses
« Reply #24 on: September 22, 2017, 12:34:32 PM »
I want to thank everyone who replied to my post about the posting of courses.  I have learned a few tips from some of them.  I just competed in my 2nd NADAC trial and my dog had two Q's!  I am starting to see some of the "patterns" in the courses and this is helping me learn the course more quickly and plan the best route for my dog.   I am a bit of a perfectionist when it comes to the planning how I will handle a course (horse or dog), so I still feel that having the course map ahead of time is helpful.  I did not know that one can ask to see the courses ahead of time, so this is something I will do from now on. 
Happy running to all and thanks again for all of your insights.

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Re: posting of courses
« Reply #25 on: September 25, 2017, 05:49:31 PM »
I'm late to this party, have done and loved NADAC for several years and understand why the rules said "no" to posting course maps, but have wished that course maps had been posted many times. It is good to learn the course by walking, but if there had been a course map to look at first, I might have avoided walking the wrong course, concentrating hard on what I needed to remember, and then find out that I had "read" the course incorrectly, in spite of the numbers on the cones.  Anyone who knows me knows this is an issue for me.  I, for one, am happy to learn that Chris has requested that judges post the courses after setting them.