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Chris Nelson

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2018 Info Sheet feedback
« on: October 21, 2017, 10:57:59 AM »
Hey Folks,

Before I post the info sheet to the main website, what else would be helpful info to have listed?

I'm mainly trying to cover the main aspects of the event, we'll cover RV and crating info on a different sheet.

Take a look and give me some feedback if you have the time :)

https://www.nadac.com/2018InfoSheet.pdf


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Re: 2018 Info Sheet feedback
« Reply #1 on: October 21, 2017, 11:19:57 AM »
Maybe you could post the dates/timeline of qualifying points for the 'current year'. 
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Re: 2018 Info Sheet feedback
« Reply #2 on: October 21, 2017, 12:11:14 PM »
Just a question on the Veteran and Double Digit requirement.  Seems like you answered one person's question about changing the Vet requirement to 9 (instead of 7) to make it more in line with everyday requirements.  But the 10 years for DD in everyday life is 12 isn't it?  Though it isn't actually DD - it's Veteran Skilled ...  Or am I getting confused ...
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Re: 2018 Info Sheet feedback
« Reply #3 on: October 21, 2017, 12:26:49 PM »
Maybe telling them it is very important that they run in order for the main event as three pines is doing videos of each dog. Pre champs not as important. Sandy

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Re: 2018 Info Sheet feedback
« Reply #4 on: October 21, 2017, 12:28:39 PM »
Just a question on the Veteran and Double Digit requirement.  Seems like you answered one person's question about changing the Vet requirement to 9 (instead of 7) to make it more in line with everyday requirements.  But the 10 years for DD in everyday life is 12 isn't it?  Though it isn't actually DD - it's Veteran Skilled ...  Or am I getting confused ...

No those are truly two different worlds.

DD is just that, any dog that is in the double digits. 

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Re: 2018 Info Sheet feedback
« Reply #5 on: October 21, 2017, 12:29:41 PM »
Maybe you could post the dates/timeline of qualifying points for the 'current year'. 

Done

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Re: 2018 Info Sheet feedback
« Reply #6 on: October 21, 2017, 02:04:02 PM »
Chris, I think in the Placements section you could just say that "Any Division with 1 to 7 dogs will get placements up to 4th."
And leave out the last sentence.  Which will mean that only this once will you get nailed for saying that 1 to 3 dogs can get a 4th!!!!!!!

Sorry.
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Re: 2018 Info Sheet feedback
« Reply #7 on: October 21, 2017, 02:41:12 PM »
You might specify that Elite Division courses typically have a distance test.   

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Re: 2018 Info Sheet feedback
« Reply #8 on: October 21, 2017, 02:51:28 PM »
Chris, I think in the Placements section you could just say that "Any Division with 1 to 7 dogs will get placements up to 4th."
And leave out the last sentence.  Which will mean that only this once will you get nailed for saying that 1 to 3 dogs can get a 4th!!!!!!!

Sorry.


Thanks Richard!   That is a little better use of the English language than my original :)


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Re: 2018 Info Sheet feedback
« Reply #9 on: October 21, 2017, 02:51:44 PM »
You might specify that Elite Division courses typically have a distance test.   

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Done!  :)


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Re: 2018 Info Sheet feedback
« Reply #10 on: October 21, 2017, 03:03:06 PM »
It looks really good Chris!
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Re: 2018 Info Sheet feedback
« Reply #11 on: October 21, 2017, 04:04:48 PM »
The info sheet is well done.

I don't know if you really need to specify the length of ribbons and size of bowl. What happens if you have a supplier change an the size changes and is shorter, now some one will complain they got shorted. The ribbons I saw this year were quite nice but if they were 2 inches shorter they would mean just the same to the winners, in my opinion.

I will complain about the following:
At least 100 points must have been earned be earned in the current year from the Regular Agility class in Novice, Open or Elite, with the exception that a dog entered in Pre-Elite cannot have earned more than 100 points in Elite Regular in their lifetime up to September 15, 2018. If a dog earns more than 100 points in Elite Regular, then their entry will be switched to the Elite level.

Belle may not have been able to come this year if this had been the case by eliminating Intro. Belle had just left Intro in Fall of 2016. She had obtained one Novice regular Q when the change to Ohio occurred and we realized this would be a doable Champs for us. We went back to Intro Regular to qualify and at the same time jumped from Intro Weavers to Novice Weavers so weaves were still to be done. Once Belle got the 9 or 10 Intro Qs Belle went right back to Novice at the next trial. She may not have made it to Champs if all those Intro runs had had to be Novice.

You've cut off opportunities for the beginning teams. Elite teams can progress from open to Elite and qualify for Elite but an Intro level team that transitions from Intro to Novice between August 2017 to July 2018 may now be cut off from going to Champs in Pre-Elite unless they go too a lot of trials or had started doing Novice as of August 2017.
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Re: 2018 Info Sheet feedback
« Reply #12 on: October 21, 2017, 05:22:39 PM »

So my understanding is that it is possible for a dog to be qualified to be in both preElite and Elite - depending on if they have 100 Elite Reg Q's or not.  In other words you could get a combination of 5 Open Reg Qs and 5 Elite Reg Qs along with the Open/Elite Jumpers and Chances qualifications and still choose between preElite and Elite if you don't yet have 100 Elite Reg Q's - am I correct in thinking this?  The handler could choose which division to enter?

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Re: 2018 Info Sheet feedback
« Reply #13 on: October 21, 2017, 05:23:14 PM »


The info sheet looks really great BTW!

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Re: 2018 Info Sheet feedback
« Reply #14 on: October 21, 2017, 05:30:38 PM »

You might improve this statement:

"Pre-Elite Qualifications
1. At least 100 points must have been earned be earned in the current year from the Regular
Agility class in Novice, Open or Elite, with the exception that a dog entered in Pre-Elite
cannot have earned more than 100 points in Elite Regular in their lifetime up to September
15, 2018."


And I would suggest stating if a dog is 7 at the start of Champs they "may" enter veteran dog division, if that is the case.