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Cathie Cage

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Re: June Announcement for January 2019 Rule Changes
« Reply #45 on: June 06, 2018, 06:46:50 AM »

If youíre struggling in chances,  you need a nadac specific trainer because even the hardest distance test in any other venue is only really comparable to a novice, maybe open chances course.
Ha ha! I felt this for real when I went to a recent USDAA trial, saw the gamble and thought, "That's it??" NADAC chances is good training for everywhere else! Only other venue that can compare is AAC. Some of their gambles are more difficult that NADAC elite chances, more in and out from the handler with more off-course opportunities.

But does NADAC offer multiple superior titles for each class? Like "superior elite jumpers 2" if someone gets ten more elite jumpers past the superior title? Or do titles per class stop at just superior? I was doing just JWW in AKC for one of my dogs so she wouldn't have to do contacts, and she got up to master JWW 6 or whatever it was called. Would that kind of thing help people feel like they are achieving goals?


Lisa, Nadac does offer extended titles! I think we all need to let Nadac implement the new changes and after they take affect talk about what else could help Nadac grow.
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Re: June Announcement for January 2019 Rule Changes
« Reply #46 on: June 06, 2018, 09:53:00 AM »
There are extended titles for each class, and at every level.

So once you reach 300 points in jumpers you would have a EJC-300,  400 points, EJC-400 and so on.

Regular is every 200 points.  So EAC-600 and so on
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How is it called at levels that are not elite? I don't remember seeing any of this in the rulebook or those titles sheets that float around every once in a while. Every +100 for each class, at each level, is a new title?

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Re: June Announcement for January 2019 Rule Changes
« Reply #47 on: June 06, 2018, 09:54:35 AM »
Hi Chris,

Thanks for the updates!
Regarding the grandfathered in dogs who run in other venues, how does this impact their achieving the Elite All Around title?


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The criteria wouldnít change.

If someone wants to jump into elite they would also be foregoing the ability to earn an all around.

They could earn a natch, but to change the criteria for the all around would really lessen the award as itís a pretty big achievement for those who earn it,  and I donít want to take away from that.


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Re: June Announcement for January 2019 Rule Changes
« Reply #48 on: June 06, 2018, 10:08:41 AM »
First, I do want to applaud Chris and NADAC for all of the great new changes that will take place in 2019!   :)  I think these will be helpful in recruiting new people to the venue.  I can see from the response that a number of current competitors are happy to see the implementation of a the achievement cups for teams at the Novice and Open Chances levels and I think that is a good thing.  Unfortunately for those of us continuing to struggle for those last few Q's at the Elite Chances level we will just continue to struggle.  It doesn't make much sense at this point to move our dogs down a level to earn these new awards.  As I noted in my original post regarding increasing participation in NADAC, the distance challenges just keep getting more difficult making it harder and harder for our newer dogs to reach our goals and earn their championships.  In addition to the increased distance, we are seeing challenges now where the layering of contact obstacles and tunnels make it impossible for the dogs (particularly the small ones) to see our cues to them at all.  On the advice of an excellent local AKC instructor, I am working on teaching stronger verbal cues and hope that this will help.  We host guest instructors several times a year, but are still unfortunately in one of those areas with no NADAC instruction.  Maybe someone in our area will step up for the new certified training opportunity.  I will be spreading the word.     

Overall, I do think the changes are positive ones.  Good work guys!

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Re: June Announcement for January 2019 Rule Changes
« Reply #49 on: June 06, 2018, 10:11:13 AM »
First, I do want to applaud Chris and NADAC for all of the great new changes that will take place in 2019!   :)  I think these will be helpful in recruiting new people to the venue.  I can see from the response that a number of current competitors are happy to see the implementation of a the achievement cups for teams at the Novice and Open Chances levels and I think that is a good thing.  Unfortunately for those of us continuing to struggle for those last few Q's at the Elite Chances level we will just continue to struggle.  It doesn't make much sense at this point to move our dogs down a level to earn these new awards.  As I noted in my original post regarding increasing participation in NADAC, the distance challenges just keep getting more difficult making it harder and harder for our newer dogs to reach our goals and earn their championships.  In addition to the increased distance, we are seeing challenges now where the layering of contact obstacles and tunnels make it impossible for the dogs (particularly the small ones) to see our cues to them at all.  On the advice of an excellent local AKC instructor, I am working on teaching stronger verbal cues and hope that this will help.  We host guest instructors several times a year, but are still unfortunately in one of those areas with no NADAC instruction.  Maybe someone in our area will step up for the new certified training opportunity.  I will be spreading the word.     

Overall, I do think the changes are positive ones.  Good work guys!
Weíve been making the chances lines easier.

Everything takes time to filter in :)


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Re: June Announcement for January 2019 Rule Changes
« Reply #50 on: June 06, 2018, 10:29:49 AM »
Well then we'll give it some time before abandoning all hope.    ;)

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Re: June Announcement for January 2019 Rule Changes
« Reply #51 on: June 06, 2018, 11:46:44 AM »
Don't abandon all hope!! :-)  we have been adjusting the Chances lines and as Chris said it does take time for it to filter all in. :-)

Shameless promoting to follow..... :-) I am looking at doing an east coast seminar tour this fall/next spring, If you know of any facilities and equipment to rent, let me know!! :-D

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Re: June Announcement for January 2019 Rule Changes
« Reply #52 on: June 06, 2018, 11:48:07 AM »
Also, don't forget to check out the NADAC Training Libary!! Lorrie Reynolds has been posting AMAZING distance and directional articles there! :-)

https://nadactraininglibrary.ning.com/

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Re: June Announcement for January 2019 Rule Changes
« Reply #53 on: June 06, 2018, 12:40:53 PM »
Thanks for the tips Amanda!  I'll check out the link.

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Re: June Announcement for January 2019 Rule Changes
« Reply #54 on: June 06, 2018, 03:57:19 PM »
I just wanted to say Thanks to everyone who helps with NADAC but especially Chris! Some days I don't know how you continue to stay so positive!
I think the new achievement awards (gold, Silver etc) are a wonderful idea!!


here is an ELITE checklist that a came across a few years ago for those who are interested
Have a great day everyone and Happy Trialing 

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Re: June Announcement for January 2019 Rule Changes
« Reply #55 on: June 09, 2018, 04:29:47 AM »
Lauri, in regards to the extended title page, do you know if there is one that continues on from the sheet you posted. Unfortunately, I have no computer skills to duplicate this form with the numbers continuing out from the last form. Hoping someone can download it to the forum 🤗
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Re: June Announcement for January 2019 Rule Changes
« Reply #56 on: June 11, 2018, 09:03:56 AM »
Don't abandon all hope!! :-)  we have been adjusting the Chances lines and as Chris said it does take time for it to filter all in. :-)

Shameless promoting to follow..... :-) I am looking at doing an east coast seminar tour this fall/next spring, If you know of any facilities and equipment to rent, let me know!! :-D

Amanda

Well then we'll give it some time before abandoning all hope.    ;)

I haven't seen them yet, but I am looking forward to it.  As someone who runs a small dog, I definitely struggle with chances with that dog, but not so much with any of my larger dogs. 
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Re: June Announcement for January 2019 Rule Changes
« Reply #57 on: June 11, 2018, 09:20:21 AM »
Lauri, in regards to the extended title page, do you know if there is one that continues on from the sheet you posted. Unfortunately, I have no computer skills to duplicate this form with the numbers continuing out from the last form. Hoping someone can download it to the forum 🤗
Thanks Donna

Donna,

Here are the ones that I use.  I may have copied the one beginning with 810 from somewhere else (can't remember now, it was long ago), but I did create the one that starts with 1610 so if you see any errors, please let me know.

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Re: June Announcement for January 2019 Rule Changes
« Reply #58 on: June 12, 2018, 10:00:31 AM »
A LOT of good news in this video, I esp like the standardized premiums and grandfathering in from other venues. although other venues will have some challenges with the NADAC style of distance.
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Re: June Announcement for January 2019 Rule Changes
« Reply #59 on: June 20, 2018, 11:31:34 AM »
They will be retroactive.

I doubt many will be given out for the past though since not many people stick around in novice or open past the superiors


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